I'm unemployable :(

Amber_Sunshine

mrsbadcrumble wrote: »

And please don't use depression as an excuse or your parents situation as an excuse either. You say how their health affected your opinions etc on things. You know what the problem is, so sort it out and get on with your life. I know plenty of people who would love to work but really are physically incapable of doing so. I've worked since I was 15, did GCSE's and A-Levels, have suffered from severe depression, but battled through some crappy jobs and have never claimed JSA. I do work with young people on a voluntary basis so have a little experience of your kind of attitude... But think about it - we were all young once. We all had to do crummy jobs we didn't like (well, most of us!). You only live once - don't waste your life. Don't become another scrounging scumbag in other words. Get your medical 'issues' sorted out and earn your keep.

It's to your credit that you have always worked, although not everyone with depression can. I think OP is looking for an alternative lifestyle, OP why not make contact with other similar-minded people? But you have to live somehow, and I think you're going to have to start by earning some money in a mainstream job to fund that lifestyle.

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chippy_250 wrote: »

i do contribure though. not in money, but i clean and tidy the house everyday and put dishes in the dishwasher and put my clothes on the line. so im not as lazy as you make out.
i'd prefer communism because everyone would have the same wage and it be fairer. i dont see why people claiming benefits should be targeted. i get more angry seeing rich people to be honest. what do you think about people who have done nothing all their life and inherit millions off their familys and live luxury lives? surely they must annoy you more than someone claiming a massive £48 a week on JSA?

In a society where we are all 'equally' paid - what benefit would there be to working hard? What would motivate people to better themselves? sigh... communism/marxim only works in small highly motivated communities (e.g. Israeli kibbutz's)

Oldernotwiser

chippy_250 wrote: »

i do contribure though. not in money, but i clean and tidy the house everyday and put dishes in the dishwasher and put my clothes on the line. so im not as lazy as you make out.
i'd prefer communism because everyone would have the same wage and it be fairer. i dont see why people claiming benefits should be targeted. i get more angry seeing rich people to be honest. what do you think about people who have done nothing all their life and inherit millions off their familys and live luxury lives? surely they must annoy you more than someone claiming a massive £48 a week on JSA?

But you are given £48 per week to pay for your keep; helping around the house is fine, but it doesn't put food on the table.

What I think this situation illustrates is how the parents of young people like the OP contribute to their situation. Why anyone should allow someone of this age to live rent free and keep their JSA as pocket money defeats me. If someone in this situation paid at least half of their benefit money for their keep (and, after all, this wouldn't even cover outgoings) they'd soon find that the rest wouldn't go very far. As it is, £48 pocket money at 18 (if you've never had money of your own before) can seem quite a reasonable amount to live on.

seven-day-weekend

chippy_250 wrote: »

i do contribure though. not in money, but i clean and tidy the house everyday and put dishes in the dishwasher and put my clothes on the line. so im not as lazy as you make out.
i'd prefer communism because everyone would have the same wage and it be fairer. i dont see why people claiming benefits should be targeted. i get more angry seeing rich people to be honest. what do you think about people who have done nothing all their life and inherit millions off their familys and live luxury lives? surely they must annoy you more than someone claiming a massive £48 a week on JSA?

No, it's their private money so good luck to them I say.

JSA is paid for by ordinary workers out of their tax.

And I do know about depression, my husband has battled with it for nearly thirty years, but apart from two bouts of long-term sick leave when he was incapable of doing anything and some shorter ones, he managed to hold down a job as a schoolteacher for most of that time. One or two adjustments (mainly to his hours) were bmade to accomodate his condition and therefore he was able to, for the most part, carry on.

He took early retirement because of his health, but he has worked for forty years!

chippy_250

ringo_24601 wrote: »

In a society where we are all 'equally' paid - what benefit would there be to working hard? What would motivate people to better themselves? sigh... communism/marxim only works in small highly motivated communities (e.g. Israeli kibbutz's)

no becasue there would be no poor and no rich. everyone would be equal. crime would go down also, becasuse everyone could afford the same amount as everyone else

simone83

I am a 25 year old with a Mum with MS, a Father with a hearth condition and an autistic Brother. I work full time and spend the rest of it running round making life a bit easier for everyone.

Chippy, life is hard and jobs are boring - but life is life and 'pulling your own weight in the house' doesnt cut it I'm affraid. you need to be doing more than just your own bit.

I would get a job with anyone and make it you goal to keep it, let your motivation be that you need to make you parents proud and then give it 110%.

good luck.

MsChazzer

If your anxiety and depression are affecting your ability to work you need to get treatment. I take medication to control my anxiety and it's seen me through 2 degrees and I haven't been out of work since I left university. I'm in an interesting job that pays well. I don't tend to disclose my anxiety to those I work for unless I need to (that's generally when I've needed to go back on medication which I do as quickly as possible so I can carry on with my day-to-day life, including work) so I've not got jobs out of sympathy (who does though?).

I realise I'm lucky as I have found a medication that works for me but it doesn't work for everyone. However I strongly believe that you need to make an effort to find a treatment that works for you and not just to get you back into work.

I did some low-paid catering work before university when I was still getting my anxiety sorted out. They weren't great jobs and certainly not what I wanted to do for the rest of my life but they gave me experience and helped my confidence and social skills.

I consider myself pretty left-wing but I certainly don't like the idea of my taxes going to allow people to be lazy. Helping people whilst they find a job, yes, but not to mess about.

scootw1

chippy_250 wrote: »

no becasue there would be no poor and no rich. everyone would be equal. crime would go down also, becasuse everyone could afford the same amount as everyone else

So you think that you should get the same amount of money as me? You, who left school after GCSEs(and not very good ones at that) and can't be arsed to do anything, and me who has been through university and gained a degree and been working for the last 12 years? You are one lazy, sad individual:mad:

briona

Isn't it strange how people convince themselves of something and then refuse to even look into other options? NO ONE is unemployable. People with no qualifications, people with physical or mental disabilities, people for whom English is not their first, or even second (!) language have all managed to find employment in this country, and yet you can't (won't?) find something you like?!

chippy_250 wrote: »

well yer im an all or nothing type of person. i've im motivated and doing something i want to do i give 110%.

You say you're an "all or nothing" person but so far all anyone's seen is the "nothing" part. You say that if you're motivated then you give 110% – so you need to find more things that motivate you. When I was in school and asked what career I wanted, I had no idea. I mean everyone's heard of teachers and nurses but how many people know what an occupational therapist does?! At 16, I certainly didn't! You say you like sports – well you don't have to be a football player to have a career in it. There are hundreds of sports-related careers out there but YOU need to do the research into them.

chippy_250 wrote: »

but if you ask me to do something i hate then i cant force myself to do it. strange really.

How many things have you actually tried? You can't hate everything, and it's not possible to hate something you've never even tried! So you didn't get on with two jobs, try something else.

chippy_250 wrote: »

no i cant work in leisur centres becasue you need to have a life gaurd badge thing and i cant swim.

You CAN work in leisure centres, just not as a lifeguard. A Google search shows that there are 6 leisure centres and a tennis centre in and around Swansea – why not contact one of them?

http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=13936

As with countless other young posters on here you are great at coming up with excuses for why you cannot do something, but in reality the only thing standing in your way is YOU. For there to be change in your life, you have to want it. You have to do something to make it happen. You're 18 and "broke", living on £48pw. Fast forward 10 years – do you want to be 28 and unemployed, still living at home with parents and unable to afford to do anything with your life?

You only get one life, what you do with it is up to you but if and when the Government overhauls the benefits system, people like you may find that you are left high and dry with no source of "income"...

ClareEmily

chippy_250 wrote: »

hmm i've seemed to upset a lot of people. i didnt realize there were so many right-winged people. can i just add, it's not the law to work mind. but i am actually looking for work this time, so im not cheating the system.
yes my anxiety in the 1st job was terrbile. everytime i went out in a public place i'd get dizzy and have panic attacks. so what did you think i felt thrown onto a till in xmas month confussed and with thousands of customers! my head was spinning and i couldnt wait to go home but i forced myself to stay. however one night i was working there it all built up too much and i actually fainted on the till. i was too embaressed to go back, but i did for a couple of shifts then quit. i felt so pathetic.
im also very underweight and i have hypoglycemia so i need to keep eating every two hours at least. so if i was to have a 4 hour shift i wouldnt be allowed to have a break. i'd start to worry about fainting which would bring a panic attack on. i have to carry lucozade tablets on me just in case. i have fainted a few times playign football too. so basically its put me off working as im in fear it will happen again.
also my father has stuffered from depression and my mother is suffering from stress/anxiety. i've watched them suffer over the years, and complain about their lives and jobs so its really put me off. my father talks about is job as if it was a jail sentencte, writting off the days. i wouldnt say we're poor, but we're below average. i just have a negative attitude towards things. im sorry i've upset a few people with my comments.
no i dont have to pay any bills, the only thing i have to pay is to top up my phone £5 a week. it's not like im spoilt and had it easy.
im not motivated by money, i have something against capitalism.

But you are motivated by money because in one of your first posts you didn't see the point of working unless it made you rich.

Unfortunetely your parents negitive attitude is rubbing off onto you.

My mum has worked all her life, worked in Bank, as a Cook, as Accounts Assistant, School Helper, now at 60 she is working in the post office for minimum wage, she is happy owes her own home, bought up two children, has money in the bank and is repected as a hard working indivudual.

My dad left school at 15 with no qualifications but now owes his own JCB business, he has a beautiful house, many vechicles, herd of cattle and is very happy.

I'm in a job which pays me £350 per week (after tax) so for actually getting off my butt and going into work (which I enjoy) working with people I like, getting paid if I am sick or going on holiday, I am £1,208.00 better off than you each and every month.

I don't have to live with my parents anymore, I have a house, a car, a hubby, pets, mobile phone, nice holidays (went to Canada last year), and can afford to go to concerts, pub etc I know who's life I would rather have to be honest.

In my job I can eat all day if I like (not good when choc around) if seems you have had a couple of bad job experiences, not every job is like that.

What jobs do your parents do?? What does your G.F do?

You only get one life so if you dad has wasted it moaning about his job, which with a bit of get up and go he could change at any point, then I think it is really sad, especially as how he has passed his negative attitude to you.

Lots of people have given you advice, now they are getting a bit fed up because you are throwing it back in their faces. All you have to do is pick up the phone and phone one of the numbers people have kindly listed on this thread.