adoptee found birth mother & sibling (merged with po box who owns it?)

loopy_lass

i spoke to the Sally army some time ago and they say they only look for missing persons... will take another look tho, thanks..


loops

CelticStar

Hi loopy lass, hope this all turns out well for you in the end and sorry to hear you have had problems with your adopted mum, that must have been hard. I am relieved to hear that you have considered the prospect of rejection - it's all too common unfortunately but I hope it turns out differently for you.

With regards to goods and chattels. I think that as have been adopted you no longer have any legal rights to any of your birth family's estate(s) unless it is willed to you - though you do have rights to your adoptive parents estates if they will them to you (obviously) or if either of them die/have died without leaving a will. If your birth parents never married then I don't think that you would ever have had any call on your birth father's estate even if you weren't adopted. Not the best of news for you but at least it gives you an idea of what to expect although I might be wrong so check it out for yourself.

With regards to tracing your family tree have you worked your way back through birth/death/marriage certificates and the online Census returns on sites such as Ancestry.com?

loopy_lass

interesting prospect re chattels etc. i will look into it, and i have been using ancestry.co.uk, signed up for a year at £80!!!!

with regards to my adoptive parents, my dad already had 2 children to his first wife, then re married and adopted me, then had natural son, hence i was superflouos to requirements after that. Dad died and my oldest half brother took everything because he said i and my younger brother were not full blood relatives as there was no will.... when my next eldest brother died, my eldest brother also took his house, his 60k savings, the antiques etc etc as he once again said me and my youngest brother were not full relatives and there was no will.....

my adoptive mother writes on birthdays and xmas to say she is taking me out of her will also.......

so looks like im destined to be a pauper all my life!

hey ho

loops


thanks

loops

CelticStar

loopy_lass wrote: »

interesting prospect re chattels etc. i will look into it, and i have been using ancestry.co.uk, signed up for a year at £80!!!!

with regards to my adoptive parents, my dad already had 2 children to his first wife, then re married and adopted me, then had natural son, hence i was superflouos to requirements after that. Dad died and my oldest half brother took everything because he said i and my younger brother were not full blood relatives as there was no will.... when my next eldest brother died, my eldest brother also took his house, his 60k savings, the antiques etc etc as he once again said me and my youngest brother were not full relatives and there was no will.....

my adoptive mother writes on birthdays and xmas to say she is taking me out of her will also.......

so looks like im destined to be a pauper all my life!

hey ho
thanks

loops

That is completely against the law loopy. I'm pretty sure that you had a claim to your adoptive father's estate (regardless of blood, in law you are considered a full daughter because you were adopted). I was adopted by my stepfather, who had two other daughters with my mother, and one of the main reasons for the adoption was so that I had equal rights with my sisters to my stepfather's estate. Strangely, my mother also had to adopt me despite the fact that she was my mother by blood otherwise she was have had fewer legal rights over me than my stepfather. I thought that was very strange at the time, but it's completely true.

How far back have you got with your birth mother's family tree? Did you manage to get her parent's details from her birth certificate?

loopy_lass

hi just to answer some questions raised on here, i telephoned after adoption as suggested, they were great, told me to phone the yorkshire one, which i did, they ran through everything with me. Said the do not charge me for helping but the local council, but rely on donatiions, so im happy to do that. got on waiting list to see them & they will chcek my findings and contact mother, im not expection a good outcome but am hoping, at least for some photos or history. they also run a help group for people who have had a negtive experience with adoption.... so im going to look into that.

as for my eldest brother taking all dads estate, he said that because his (natural) mother had died, he was next in line, and that if i and my younger brother signed everything over to him, it would make it easier to get stuff released & he would duly share it!!! never happened.

does anyone know how i get a copy or a look at 2001 census?

thanks everyone, hope this has helped others also

loops

Savvy_Sue

loopy_lass wrote: »

does anyone know how i get a copy or a look at 2001 census?

I thought that wouldn't become 'open' until 2101. ie after everyone on it is dead or almost so!

barjam_2

loopy_lass wrote: »

i spoke to the Sally army some time ago and they say they only look for missing persons... will take another look tho, thanks..


loops

i find that strange as my hubby and his brother received a letter from sally army 3 n half years ago as someone from holland was looking for them on behalf on hubbys and brothers father, hubby phoned sally army and they filled him in with some details so might be worth trying again

elainew

If your birth mother and father died you wouldnt be entitled to any of the estate as you are no longer part of their family.
Saw this recently on one of those programs on TV when an adopted boy tried to claim on his late birth fathers estate. As he was now adopted the fathers 2nd cousin got the lot as he was the next person in the family tree
Good luck in your search
Elaine x

Zara33

Loopy after reading further posts i have to say i'm very interested in why you are trying to contact your natural birth mother...you see the way i'm reading your posts is a) you are very angry both towards your birth mother and your adopted mother b) all you seem really interested in is where all the money gone from both sets of parents.

If i am reading this incorrectly then forgive me but...it does seem that way to me.

loopy_lass wrote: »

after all i was the 5th child she dumped!!!


Now the odd thing is i cannot find a marriage certificate for my mum & dad, SOooooooo another reason is..... if they werent married, he died suddenly with no will, ....... need i say more! also if they did marry, once she karks it, im the only child.... also my paternal grandfather died some years after my dad, who was an only child, so where did his chattels go?

with regards to my adoptive parents, my dad already had 2 children to his first wife, then re married and adopted me, then had natural son, hence i was superflouos to requirements after that. Dad died and my oldest half brother took everything because he said i and my younger brother were not full blood relatives as there was no will.... when my next eldest brother died, my eldest brother also took his house, his 60k savings, the antiques etc etc as he once again said me and my youngest brother were not full relatives and there was no will.....

my adoptive mother writes on birthdays and xmas to say she is taking me out of her will also.......

so looks like im destined to be a pauper all my life!

loopy_lass

Zara33 wrote: »

Loopy after reading further posts i have to say i'm very interested in why you are trying to contact your natural birth mother...you see the way i'm reading your posts is a) you are very angry both towards your birth mother and your adopted mother b) all you seem really interested in is where all the money gone from both sets of parents.

If i am reading this incorrectly then forgive me but...it does seem that way to me.

ok, 1st of all, yes i am angry that four adults can cause a child such trauma with no comeback. not once did i see a social worker, otherwise i would have put myself back into care, i would have been safer & happier there.

2nd, i am interested in where the money has gone, because if it is sat at a solicitors unclaimed and i am sat here on the bones of my backside then yes ill have it.

3rdly, i have a legal right to trace my birth family for whatever reasons, i posted on here to ask for ways to do this without it costing a whole herd of money i dont have. and if you read the posts again you will see that i am more interested in history & photos than anything else.... not to be cross examined as to why i want to do it.

hope that clears that up,

loops