Puppy Advice (merged)

stokechick16

Hi all !

Looking for some advice , please !

I know pups are playful etc but im really worried about my puppy. He is very vicious! We have not been vicious to him or my other 2 dogs.

My other two dogs are soft as anything, and everyone even says they are. They have never bitten anyone, but we dont let them near children - incase they did bite them and they would be put down, so its not worth the risk.

Anyway, as soon as we pick pup up - carlin his name is. He fights us and cries. I dont know why? I know he wants to play but he always goes for our faces and im worried he might turn out vicious.

Is there any way to disiplin him? Cant spell it though, sorry. At the moment, if he bites us or growls at us, we tap his nose and put him down. He never stops biting or growling.

Im worried my auntys children might of been rough to them - dont mean to be nasty to my family of course. Because all the puppies are like this, her ex husband had one, and rang my aunty to tell her that his pup, rooney, always goes for faces. So my nan thinks they may have blown in the puppies faces, not sure why?

Thank you.

daveyliver

daisykinn1 wrote: »

I've had dogs all my life. As a family we also fostered dogs for the RSPCA. At one point we had 7 in the family and all the family dogs have had full lives living 16yrs+. I also have a degree in Animal Science. So my opinion is correct, like it or not. Depriving a dog access to water is neglect, does not aid house training and can lead to serious kidney problems later in life.

And no he isn't left alone but thank you for the concern. He's just shown his appreciation by doing an audible fart!!!

Btw do you think your 'friend' is responsible to be breeding this type of dog? Do you know how many unwanted mastiffs are currently in shelters? Just a thought

Yes of course all her bullmastiffs end up in shelters she hates dogs and has been plodding on, breeding them for the last 15 years, she gives them to 12 year old boys who turn up with a fiver. She never vets any potential families, and never advises them on what ailments they can have in later life or how big they get. What a idiotic comment p.s. mastiffs are a different to bullmastiffs you should have learned that doing your "animal science degree":D

I seem to have touched a nerve with you about leaving dogs alone for stupid amounts of time, This wasnt directed at you but if the cap fits. If my advice was so horrific, how come you posted the "dont take this advice" as a afterthought?

I had a mongrel that lived a healthy life for 18 years never once going to the vets, I didnt need a degree in animal science for her to live that long?

If stating how clever and what education you "?" have and how many dogs you have fostered makes you feel better about yourself, then please tell us more about how good you are, we are here to cater to your ego. But genuine volunteers dont do it for praise, they do it cos they care.:A

If getting up in the middle of the night and maybe then giving your dog a drink, then letting it do its business outside for 10 mins is too much trouble sorry you should not own a pet.:cool:

What I give was advice, Maybe I should have been more clear about the length of time it is deprived of water, I just assumed that everyone knew it was unacceptable to go to bed at 9pm and get up at 9am without attending to the pup. The OP can choose herself what to follow.:T

eira

To be honest I wish I hadn't read this thread. Although it's hard the posters are right, not buying from these people is the only way to stop them. The Newfoundland hit home particularly hard for me as our adored Newfie cross died a few months ago and I know too well how much space and love they need.

Other avenues that people I know have tried that have resulted in the rescue of some dogs is contacting a local dog welfare organisation or the local breed welfare . The breed welfare/associations organisations have fingers in lots of pies and can at least warn prospective buyers off certain breeders or recommend good breeders. The Kennel Club may be helpful if she's a registered breeder.

In one of our local areas there's a thriving trade in a certain guarding breed that costs £800 with no papers ,suffice to say their function is not as family pets.Local areas have forums that you can post on and spread the word.No one local would ever buy this particular breed from that particular area..

You did the very best in walking away and telling others. Posting on forums like these also helps-if even a handful of people decide against a bad breeder or better still a for a rescue dog you will have made your mark on the battle against the puppy farmers.

eira

Have you had a vet check him out ? There may be a physiological reason why he snaps if you pick him up . How old is he ? Maybe he doesn't like being picked up, some animals just don't. Does he snap over food/toys/when he gets stroked ? Or is the snapping just when he gets picked up ? If you run your hand over him gently does there seem to be any flinching or any areas that seem tender to the touch?
How does he behave on the lead or with other dogs? Is he snappier with some humans than others ? If you aren't sure how he was treated before you got him there could be a lot of reasons other than intrinsic nastiness that could be overcome with training and time.

i_am_really_rich!!

Davyliver - don't bite. Some people come on these forums just purely to wind people up. We all have our own opinions and what works for some people (or dogs) may not work for others. Tbain - well done so far. keep up the good work, pup will master it in no time.

SallyUK

Just had some news that someone has gone and seen the pups this afternoon and they are being monitored by a vet, haven't got the full story yet, but hope to hear more soon.

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sammy_kaye18

Fingers crossed the vet will say something or notice something that he doesnt liek the look of an dtake them all in for rehoming and treatment

SallyUK

Just heard latest.

The people who went and checked up on the pups today, actually run a rescue and have said that the pups seemed ok when they were there. Apparently they're being monitored by a vet for a problem with their coats, but not sure at this stage what it is.

The breeder has agreed that the pups will go to rescue if she doesn't manage to get them all sold.

The rescue people had apparently also in 2 weeks ago to check pups and it seems pups are fine and have seen vet on previous occasions.. (?)

There's more or two other things to be checked out but these people are happy to believe they are okay.

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Ruffles_2

Another way to make her think is to hit her in the pocket. I'd like to bet what she's making from selling puppies isn't been declared to the tax man... might be worth giving the Inland Revenue a ring

You could also try the dog warden, they don't have any power to actually do a deal but they might want to keep an eye on her.

Bromley86

Is this the same pup that was taken from his mother at 5 weeks? Also I seem to remember reading that all wasn't well at home between you and your parents (although that wouldn't explain the behaviour of the littermates, so more likely it's related to the separation age).

One touchy-feely approach to biting/mouthing is to yelp when it happens. Seemed to work with ours, but then that was normal puppy mouthing and not some other issue.