Money Moral Dilemma: Should I report my fare-dodging colleague?

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Former_MSE_Darryl
Former_MSE_Darryl Posts: 210 Forumite
edited 25 July 2014 at 11:10AM in Public transport & cycling
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This week's dilemma:

I work with someone who's bragging about dodging the fare on their train to work in the morning. He thinks it's very clever, but some of us are getting irritated - after all, we pay our way, why shouldn't he? A couple of us are tempted to report him anonymously - should we?
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  • iclayt
    iclayt Posts: 454 Forumite
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    Report him to who? The conductor? Right in front of him, presuming you travel together? He won't get away with it forever, he will be caught without a ticket one day.
  • purple.sarah
    purple.sarah Posts: 2,517 Forumite
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    This might not be the correct answer but personally I would not want to get involved, it would create a very awkward atmosphere at work if he suspects it was you. Karma will catch up with him eventually anyway. He is shooting himself in the foot by bragging about this at work, it will get back to management, who won't want a thief working for them.
  • epm-84
    epm-84 Posts: 2,723 Forumite
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    Something to note - unless you buy a ticket in advance it's a legal requirement to buy a ticket at the first opportunity when you arrive at the station to travel. Only if there are no ticket selling facilities available are you permitted to board a train without a ticket (unless staff advise you otherwise.) So if you board the train and lie to the rail staff on board about the ticket machine at the station not working and then buy the correct ticket from the rail staff on board you've actually committed a criminal offence even though you paid for a ticket.
  • esuhl
    esuhl Posts: 9,409 Forumite
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    Life's too short to play the moral policeman in your colleagues' lives. It's not really good form to commit fraud (nor to brag about it), but if you're the kind of person to get so worked up over such petty matters that you feel the need to intervene... Well... Life is just going to drive you crazy in the end. There is plenty of injustice in the world, and too many dishonest people for you to take on. Taking "revenge" against one person's immoral actions isn't going to do much but raise your stress levels (and potentially make life awkward at work if he discovers that you have "grassed him up").

    The best thing to do is simply to express what you feel -- that you're not impressed, that he's making a fool of himself by boasting of his crime, that you don't approve, and simply aren't interested in hearing about how clever he thinks he is. Maybe not quite in those words.

    Breathe in... breathe out... :-)
  • epm-84
    epm-84 Posts: 2,723 Forumite
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    iclayt wrote: »
    Report him to who? The conductor? Right in front of him, presuming you travel together? He won't get away with it forever, he will be caught without a ticket one day.

    There is an opportunity to do it anonymously. Contact the train operator's customer relations department and explain that you're aware passengers (if you know there's one then there's possibly others) are travelling daily without tickets on which ever service it is and if relevant how they are avoiding ticket checks at the station and on the train.

    It'd be interesting to know which operator the person in question is travelling with. Some e.g. Merseyrail have big posters advertising penalty fares in an attempt to scare would be fare evaders in to buying tickets. However, it can be the ones who don't advertise any such scheme that you wouldn't want to be caught ticket-less with. Northern Rail, for instance threaten fare evaders with court unless they pay a hefty out-of-court settlement.
  • nikki299
    nikki299 Posts: 75 Forumite
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    I personally wouldn't bother. If he wants to travel without a ticket and take the risk of being caught that's entirely up to him, as it is entirely your choice to purchase a ticket.
  • AnneMary
    AnneMary Posts: 69 Forumite
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    Yes, you should report him anonymously IF you can resist letting on to others you have done so. He is not being clever; he is stealing and shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.

    Yes, as it has been said, if the subject comes up, say you think it is wrong but protect yourself too.

    ''All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.''
  • Sooler
    Sooler Posts: 3,108 Forumite
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    Yes, go on, if it's anonymous, why not?, see what happens. It'll be good fun :grouphug:
  • Herbalus
    Herbalus Posts: 2,634 Forumite
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    Blackmail them into paying half your fare.

    Yes. I'm joking.
  • scotsbob
    scotsbob Posts: 4,632 Forumite
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    Find out how he does it then do it yourself. If you get caught give them his name and address instead of your own.
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