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FOI Request on DVLA for EDI requests 10/2012 to 09/2013

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Stroma
Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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So after this FOI request we can see that the parking companies have made more than 2.1m requests for Registered Keeper details from the DVLA, so grossing them more than £5m for doing nothing!

Unsurprisingly Parking Eye top the list with over 725k requests, Compex and Ranger who sell their services onto other AOS members who are not listed, come in at 2 & 3 respectively.

What can we garner from it? Well that keeper details have been given an extra 200k times, so up by about 10% on this thread. So the conclusion is that either drivers have got 10% worse, or that parking enforcement cannot be working if its increasing at such alarming rate.

Now I wonder which is true?

ParkingEye 725,657 - £1,814,142.50
Compex Development & Marketing 270,658 - £676,645.00
Ranger Services 259,653 - £649,132.50
Excel Parking 98,716 - £246,790.00
Creative Car Park Management T/A Civil Enforcement Ltd 95,786 - £239,465.00
Euro Car Parks 92,781 - £231,952.50
Roxburghe UK Ltd 77,158 - £192,895.00
U K Parking Control Ltd 73,685 - £184,212.50
Athena ANPR 71,512 - £178,780.00
G24 Ltd 69,324 - £173,310.00
Euro Parking Collection 46,625 - £116,562.50
Debt Recovery Plus 40,622 - £101,555.00
Met Parking 40,275 - £100,687.50
UK CPS Ltd 37,830 - £94,575.00
APCOA Parking (UK) LTD 31,551 - £78,877.50
TPS Parking Solutions Ltd 21,676 - £54,190.00
New Generation Parking 14,074 - £35,185.00
Britannia Parking 10,450 - £26,125.00
Local Parking Security Ltd 6,439 - £16,097.50
LCP Parking Services Ltd 6,126 - £15,315.00
Vehicle Control Solutions 5,635 - £14,087.50
Observices 5,190 - £12,975.00
Parking Control Management UK LTD 1,380 - £3,450.00
FMG Support 885 - £2,212.50
District Enforcement 432 - £1,080.00
Town and City Parking 0 - £0.00 - LOL

Total - 2,104,120 - £5,260,300.00
When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 132,729 Forumite
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    Bumping this thread for others to see, as the forum has been busy.
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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 41,509 Forumite
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    Unsurprisingly Parking Eye top the list with over 725k requests, Compex and Ranger who sell their services onto other AOS members who are not listed, come in at 2 & 3 respectively.

    I wonder what DVLA/BPA controls are in place to ensure that the requests by Compex and Ranger are exclusively on behalf of AOS members?

    Are there some DPA issues with them as third parties acquiring data, then passing that data on to the PPC?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • esmerobbo
    esmerobbo Posts: 4,979 Forumite
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    As your title says thats EDI requests theres also the paper requests to add to the DVLA coffers!

    I would assume Compex and Ranger are obtaining through the EDI saving paper applications for AOS members!
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    There are also the ones where people appeal immediately and these companies don't use the dvla, I would say that could take the figure up by another 10% or so. This figure is only going up.

    On the paper applications, it was asked but the dvla wouldn't give a breakdown on that, if you look at the foi they give a figure and explanation as to why they didn't give a breakdown.

    Also this is only about PPCs and AOS members, so doesn't include councils etc
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,268 Forumite
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    Stroma wrote: »
    So after this FOI request we can see that the parking companies have made more than 2.1m requests for Registered Keeper details from the DVLA, so grossing them more than £5m for doing nothing!

    Unsurprisingly Parking Eye top the list with over 725k requests, Compex and Ranger who sell their services onto other AOS members who are not listed, come in at 2 & 3 respectively.

    What can we garner from it? Well that keeper details have been given an extra 200k times, so up by about 10% on this thread. So the conclusion is that either drivers have got 10% worse, or that parking enforcement cannot be working if its increasing at such alarming rate.

    Now I wonder which is true?

    ParkingEye 725,657 - £1,814,142.50
    Compex Development & Marketing 270,658 - £676,645.00
    Ranger Services 259,653 - £649,132.50
    Excel Parking 98,716 - £246,790.00
    Creative Car Park Management T/A Civil Enforcement Ltd 95,786 - £239,465.00
    Euro Car Parks 92,781 - £231,952.50
    Roxburghe UK Ltd 77,158 - £192,895.00
    U K Parking Control Ltd 73,685 - £184,212.50
    Athena ANPR 71,512 - £178,780.00
    G24 Ltd 69,324 - £173,310.00
    Euro Parking Collection 46,625 - £116,562.50
    Debt Recovery Plus 40,622 - £101,555.00
    Met Parking 40,275 - £100,687.50
    UK CPS Ltd 37,830 - £94,575.00
    APCOA Parking (UK) LTD 31,551 - £78,877.50
    TPS Parking Solutions Ltd 21,676 - £54,190.00
    New Generation Parking 14,074 - £35,185.00
    Britannia Parking 10,450 - £26,125.00
    Local Parking Security Ltd 6,439 - £16,097.50
    LCP Parking Services Ltd 6,126 - £15,315.00
    Vehicle Control Solutions 5,635 - £14,087.50
    Observices 5,190 - £12,975.00
    Parking Control Management UK LTD 1,380 - £3,450.00
    FMG Support 885 - £2,212.50
    District Enforcement 432 - £1,080.00
    Town and City Parking 0 - £0.00 - LOL

    Total - 2,104,120 - £5,260,300.00
    As I see it, parking Enforcement has increased, parking Management has decreased.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • Guys_Dad
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    Surprised VCS is so low. Also who is using Roxburghe to get the data for them? There could be a connection but don't think so.

    Possibly Roxburghe may be accessing DVLA for other than parking reasons.
  • MothballsWallet
    MothballsWallet Posts: 15,852 Forumite
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    Guys_Dad wrote: »
    Surprised VCS is so low. Also who is using Roxburghe to get the data for them? There could be a connection but don't think so.

    Possibly Roxburghe may be accessing DVLA for other than parking reasons.
    In which case, why are the DVLA entertaining their requests: is it just for the money? (In which case, perhaps they can cut their senior management's salaries by 20%.)

    Isn't a keeper request only allowed for specific purposes in law?
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
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    Guys_Dad wrote: »
    Surprised VCS is so low. Also who is using Roxburghe to get the data for them? There could be a connection but don't think so.

    Possibly Roxburghe may be accessing DVLA for other than parking reasons.
    Don't forget that Roxburghe operate Roxburghe Parking Services (Steve Dargonne's domain) that provides a DVLA bureau service for smaller PPC's but also offers a full back-office service from initial processing through to debt collection and court, if required.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • Fergie76
    Fergie76 Posts: 2,293 Forumite
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    Surely Complex and Ranger should not be allowed to access the data on behalf of others, as then there is little or no checks to see who they are then selling the info on it.

    I also notice that (Not-So)Smart Parking are missing from the list.

    The whole system stinks.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    There is that , but they are allowed to do it. Was thinking about asking the dvla about what they have in place to ensure compliance with dpa on this. This whole scenario does stink as there are a number of parking companies missing from the list
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
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