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    • Stroma
    • By Stroma 14th May 13, 11:05 PM
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    FOI Request on DVLA for EDI requests 04/2012 to 03/2013
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    • 14th May 13, 11:05 PM
    FOI Request on DVLA for EDI requests 04/2012 to 03/2013 14th May 13 at 11:05 PM
    FOI Request - How many EDI requests for the dates below

    01/04/12 - 31/03/13

    ParkingEye - 684,784
    Ranger Services - 220,749
    Compex Development & Marketing - 169,736
    Roxburghe UK Ltd - 90,321
    Town and City Parking - 85,012
    Excel Parking - 82,421
    Creative Car Park Management T/A Civil Enforcement Ltd - 81,817
    Euro Car Parks - 74,756
    G24 Ltd - 68,789
    Athena ANPR - 62,891
    U K Parking Control Ltd - 62,283
    Euro Parking Collection - 39,511
    Met Parking - 38,042
    UK CPS Ltd - 35,764
    Debt Recovery Plus - 30,288
    APCOA Parking (UK) LTD - 18,119
    TPS Parking Solutions Ltd - 15,262
    New Generation Parking - 11,130
    Britannia Parking - 8,857
    Vehicle Control Solutions - 5,125
    Observices - 5,058
    LCP Parking Services Ltd - 3,547
    Parking Control Management UK LTD - 1,927
    FMG Support - 878
    Local Parking Security Ltd - 505

    Total Requests - 1,897,572


    While DVLA holds statistics on the total number of paper applications received, it does not hold separate figures on the number received from private parking companies. The total for all
    enquiries via the paper channel for the period 01/04/12 to 31/03/13 is shown below. This total includes other customers such as Finance houses, property managers and private individuals
    along with private parking companies that can provide ‘reasonable cause’ for receiving the information.

    Year Total
    01/04/12 - 31/03/13
    319,739
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
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    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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    • atilla
    • By atilla 14th May 13, 11:12 PM
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    • 14th May 13, 11:12 PM
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    • 14th May 13, 11:12 PM
    Good one.
    Shows what a scam this is.
    • Fergie76
    • By Fergie76 14th May 13, 11:20 PM
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    • 14th May 13, 11:20 PM
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    • 14th May 13, 11:20 PM
    1,897,572 x £2.50 = £4,743,930
    • Fergie76
    • By Fergie76 14th May 13, 11:21 PM
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    • 14th May 13, 11:21 PM
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    • 14th May 13, 11:21 PM
    Have you also FOI'd the Small Claims Court?
    • Stroma
    • By Stroma 14th May 13, 11:22 PM
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    • 14th May 13, 11:22 PM
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    • 14th May 13, 11:22 PM
    It also shows that the dvla got paid £4,743,930 in the 12 month period just for the electronic link. And £1,711,960 came from parking eye. Is it any wonder they will turn the other cheek to deliberate breaches of the code of practice by these scammers?
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
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    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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    • Stroma
    • By Stroma 14th May 13, 11:23 PM
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    • 14th May 13, 11:23 PM
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    • 14th May 13, 11:23 PM
    Have you also FOI'd the Small Claims Court?
    Originally posted by Fergie76
    No as some must be going through the system yet, probably give it a few more months I think
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    • bargepole
    • By bargepole 15th May 13, 7:41 AM
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    • #7
    • 15th May 13, 7:41 AM
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    • 15th May 13, 7:41 AM
    Have you also FOI'd the Small Claims Court?
    Originally posted by Fergie76
    I've already done that, to get the figures for 01/01/2012 to 31/12/2012. Response is due very shortly.
    Speeding cases fought: 24 (3 of mine, 21 for others). Cases won: 20. Points on licence: 0. Private Parking Court Cases: Won 23. Lost 7.
    • nigelbb
    • By nigelbb 15th May 13, 10:19 AM
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    • 15th May 13, 10:19 AM
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    • 15th May 13, 10:19 AM
    There are notable omissions from that list NCP & Vinci amongst them. As far as I know they are not part of another group who is listed here (like Smart is Town and City Parking) nor are they using a 3rd party (not even sure they are allowed to do this anyway).
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 26th May 13, 9:09 AM
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    • #9
    • 26th May 13, 9:09 AM
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    • 26th May 13, 9:09 AM
    Just been reading the Parking Prankster's blog on this subject. In reply to his FoI request to DVLA, this paragraph made interesting reading:

    The figures above represent authorised or completed requests. No electronic requests are declined/refused as this is an automated process. For paper enquiries DVLA does not record the number of rejects they are simply returned with the payment to the requester, stating the reason for rejection.
    Links:

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/160295/response/388954/attach/2/FOIR3417%20Craig%20Lewis.pdf

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-min=2013-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2014-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=8

    And there was me thinking that they had some checks and balances in the system!! Silly me
    Last edited by Umkomaas; 26-05-2013 at 9:12 AM.
    • Stroma
    • By Stroma 26th May 13, 9:23 AM
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    The dvla has been forced to take down words to the effect that each application is checked from their website, Martin Cutts was involved with a few people from pepipoo I believe. Also it wasn't his (PP) FOI request but mine.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
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    • bargepole
    • By bargepole 26th May 13, 10:00 AM
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    The EDI requests are available to all BPA AOS members who have signed up and paid the fee for this service.

    When they send an electronic request, there is no manual intervention from anyone at the DVLA, the system simply returns the Keeper At Date Of Event (KADOE), and the system is also used by councils and other statutory bodies. The fact that the system isn't just for PPCs is trotted out by the DVLA as their excuse for not shutting the whole thing down, even when they are aware of the misuse of data by many of the BPA's finest.

    Around 4% of electronic requests are returned as "not satisfied", these are when there is no RK recorded due to change of ownership etc., or when the registration number doesn't exist.
    Speeding cases fought: 24 (3 of mine, 21 for others). Cases won: 20. Points on licence: 0. Private Parking Court Cases: Won 23. Lost 7.
    • nigelbb
    • By nigelbb 26th May 13, 10:06 AM
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    Does anyone have an answer to my earlier question as to why NCP & Vinci don't appear in that list? NCP does use the EDI link.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 26th May 13, 10:14 AM
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    It might be that they are classified as landowners (or similar) as they have their own car parks AIUI, so they might not be counted in the pure sense of PPC.

    Just my assumption?
    • Stroma
    • By Stroma 26th May 13, 10:15 AM
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    Yes they use companies like ranger/compex/roxburghe to get details, they are allowed to do this as they are aos members, and the dvla has confirmed such previously .
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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