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Old 19-04-2005, 1:53 PM
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Default Ebid vs Ebay

I have recently signed up to Ebid as I'm sick of all the scams and rip-offs and high fees on Ebay.

Ebid offer free auctions, free final value fees and a free shop to boot.

Obviously Ebid arent anywhere near as large as ebay and probably never will be but it is good for free.

Your thoughts please
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Old 19-04-2005, 2:08 PM
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EBay is where the buyers are ... If that ever changes, I'll consider selling elsewhere.
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Old 19-04-2005, 2:48 PM
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i've used it once, i got my stuff but ever got any replies back off the seller, who also never left feedback. plus at the moment most of the stuff seems pants, prob cos not many people going on there. its a pirates paradise, as i guess its not being monitored very well at the moment

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Old 19-04-2005, 5:18 PM
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EBay is where the buyers are ... If that ever changes, I'll consider selling elsewhere.
I'll second that!
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Old 19-04-2005, 10:58 PM
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i too am sick to the teeth of ebays chargres but untill another alternative is advalible like ebid becoming popular then i have to stick with ebay altho my sellers fees are so high sometimes i dont make much profit at all and i wonder why i bother but in the past have made a few pennys
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Old 20-04-2005, 1:46 AM
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its a pirates paradise, as i guess its not being monitored very well at the moment
and eBay isn't a place for pirates to sell their wares?
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Old 20-04-2005, 2:17 AM
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ebay has a charitable foundation?
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Old 20-04-2005, 10:17 AM
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and eBay isn't a place for pirates to sell their wares?
yes it is, but what with the vero thing and people starting to report pirate stuff, its more hit and miss as to whether sellers are going to get there goods taken off - there's been a numebr of posts in the past few months on the forum about sellers being confused as to why they've had, say a brand new dvd, being removed accoriding to vero regulations; on the pirate side there was some guy complaining he'd been taken off for selling what he called very good bootlegs.

my point is that ebid is not at the stage of massiveness yet where these kinds of items are being picked up and removed, which people may argue has good and bad points...

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Old 29-12-2008, 6:40 PM
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i too am sick to the teeth of ebays chargres but untill another alternative is advalible like ebid becoming popular then i have to stick with ebay altho my sellers fees are so high sometimes i dont make much profit at all and i wonder why i bother but in the past have made a few pennys
That's the spirit, Poppit... let everybody else do all the hard work without you, and then you'll step in when it's a roaring success.

Well here's the rub. In most countries, eBay is currently the only game in town... it's effectively a monopoly; and that means it can and will raise its fees, raise its profits, reduce choice for its seller customers and buyer customers, except where it sees itself making extra profit.

No company will prep itself to roll-out from Day 1 a service as complete as e-bay, unless perhaps it's a company that's already the lead player in other countries, and wants to "steal" e-bay's market one country at a time. But that's exceptionally unlikely, because Yahoo tried it an failed.

Here's why on-line auctions are a special case:

It really is convenient for customers to have one arena for all their customers. It costs to advertise in more than one place; to manage sales in more than one place; and it's difficult, because one item can only be sold in one auction so sellers have to make their choice.

But e-bays position will only ever get stronger unless you, Poppit, and a million other people, shift the power balance. (In fact since you wrote your mail, you've seen it happen!) That absolutely means you make a sacrifice of convenience in exchange for the free listings and no final value fees and whatever else. But at least you shouldn't whinge about e-bay while supporting their monopoly.

Be abused by e-bay and smile about it; or have the courage and determination to vote with your feet an walk!
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Old 29-12-2008, 7:11 PM
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Um, this thread is almost 4 years old, I think the OP has probably moved on by now.
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Old 29-12-2008, 7:20 PM
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Um, this thread is almost 4 years old, I think the OP has probably moved on by now.
4 years old, and still eBid is a useless alternative to eBay. Sadly eBay hold the monopoly, and the customers, and that will never change.
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I'm sick of all the scams and rip-offs and high fees on Ebay
4 years on and nothing has changed :confused:
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4 years on and nothing has changed :confused:

Yep - same broken record!
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If Ebay continue with their plans to only allow Paypal as their online intergrated payment system, then I for one will be complaining to the Competition Commissioner on the grounds that is is in full breach of the competitions act.

Every week approx. 1,000 people switch from Ebay to Ebid. Why?, because you can integrate several different payment systems.

I have accounts on both.
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Old 30-12-2008, 5:21 PM
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Oh dear not another monopoly question..ebay can do what they like on their site. A monopoly cannot exist where there is open competition.

Your own argument rather suggests that ebid is such a dreadfully appalling site that it is not in any way competition to ebay, I can't see the ebid people being happy with you!

Also strictly speaking since ebay allow bank transfers that would appear to be an online capable service as well. Do they also allow nochex as well, I haven't seen any mention of it for ages but I wonder if that is user apathy rather than an outright ban.
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Old 17-09-2009, 8:27 AM
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Almost another 9 months past - any updates on this. Just found this thread after seeing a result in google pointing to ebid.

eBay will always hold the monopoly unless everyone - including us, show that their charges aren't acceptable.
Can eBid be the rival?

Any updated info welcome.
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Almost another 9 months past - any updates on this. Just found this thread after seeing a result in google pointing to ebid.

eBay will always hold the monopoly unless everyone - including us, show that their charges aren't acceptable.
Can eBid be the rival?

Any updated info welcome.
What sort of update do you need?

If you use ebid then it would be useful to have your own views on whether sales are improving there, you may find this thread of use if you use ebid:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...highlight=ebid
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I was wondering if people were still using it to buy and sell and if the overall perception had improved. Also if buyers thought the numbers were increasing on there i.e. the sales results were getting better.

Thanks for the link to the other topic, reading that as I go.

I have registered on eBid now as a buyer and will give it a try. Will feedback any thoughts I have on the experience - the registration seemed straightforward anyway
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I was wondering if people were still using it to buy and sell and if the overall perception had improved. Also if buyers thought the numbers were increasing on there i.e. the sales results were getting better.

Thanks for the link to the other topic, reading that as I go.

I have registered on eBid now as a buyer and will give it a try. Will feedback any thoughts I have on the experience - the registration seemed straightforward anyway
If you are under the impression that ebid is new then you may want to check out registration dates as they are virtually the same age.

Ebay.uk is a fraction over 10 years old, ebid approx 9 years. I have been registered on ebid for over 5 years without a single sale. I actually took off all my listings about 5 months ago as in terms of time it was costing me too much, but decided to re add a few listings in the interest of fairness as without listings currently live I felt that I would be unable to make comments about how ebid is progressing. Also in the interest of fairness I list the same items, although I have listed slightly cheaper on ebid to account for the fact that there are no listing fees.
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Soolin,
no, I realised that eBid had been around since the late 90's (even though I've only just found them!), I had forgotten however that eBay had only been around for a similar length of time.

I just like the idea that there should be some form of competition for eBay. I personally don't like the fact on eBay that you're forced down Paypal as a payment route if you're a seller, and that there are multiple places where eBay/Paypal take their cut - on listing, on selling, on payment - it's almost like they want you to forget how much money you're giving to them.
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