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    Minniehaha
    Private parking fines UKCPS Ltd
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    • 26th Aug 11, 8:25 AM
    Private parking fines UKCPS Ltd 26th Aug 11 at 8:25 AM
    Yesterday my daughter, daughter in law and four children went into a retail park and parked two cars. I believed we could park for two hours ( however I was wrong, it was 1hour 45 minutes ! )
    We walked around the shops, looking and checking prices of school uniforms and clothes for ourselves. How ever there is a Pizza Hut on site and the children wanted to go for lunch. We waited approx 20 minutes to be seated and have our order taken. We waited a further 25minutes for the food and drinks. ( they were busy and getting busier all the time )
    We had two toddlers under two who, as anyone with children that age would know it's diffcult to rush. The older two wanted desert, but we said no as we had to get back to the cars.
    When we got back to the car , both my daughter and daughter in law had parking tickets with a £60 charge and if not paid in fourteen days goes up to £100 !
    We were absolutely gutted, £120 charge because Pizza Hut was busy !
    I have spoken to the parking company who say they can't do anything for 48 hours as they don't have the information until then.
    The car park was half empty when we arrived and the same when we left.
    Please help ???
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    • Fergie76
    • By Fergie76 26th Aug 11, 8:31 AM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 8:31 AM
    • #2
    • 26th Aug 11, 8:31 AM
    Yesterday my daughter, daughter in law and four children went into a retail park and parked two cars. I believed we could park for two hours ( however I was wrong, it was 1hour 45 minutes ! )
    We walked around the shops, looking and checking prices of school uniforms and clothes for ourselves. How ever there is a Pizza Hut on site and the children wanted to go for lunch. We waited approx 20 minutes to be seated and have our order taken. We waited a further 25minutes for the food and drinks. ( they were busy and getting busier all the time )
    We had two toddlers under two who, as anyone with children that age would know it's diffcult to rush. The older two wanted desert, but we said no as we had to get back to the cars.
    When we got back to the car , both my daughter and daughter in law had parking tickets with a £60 charge and if not paid in fourteen days goes up to £100 !
    We were absolutely gutted, £120 charge because Pizza Hut was busy !
    I have spoken to the parking company who say they can't do anything for 48 hours as they don't have the information until then.
    The car park was half empty when we arrived and the same when we left.
    Please help ???
    Originally posted by Minniehaha
    1. It's not a fine, it's a speculative invoice. Scam, if you like.

    2. If you had read the 1000's of other posts on here, similar to yours, you would know just to ignore them. Certainly don't bother contacting them or appealling. There is no such thing as an appeal.

    3. Complain to all the you visited yesterday, especially Pizza Hut and tell them that you will be taking your business else where until the vermin are gone out the car park.

    4. Read the stick thread at the top of the board and it will tell you the various begging letters you can expect, all becoming a bit more desperate for your money.

    5. So in summary - Do not contact them in any way!
    • trisontana
    • By trisontana 26th Aug 11, 9:00 AM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 9:00 AM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 9:00 AM
    I wonder who set that stupid time limit of one hour and forty-five minutes? Could it be UKCPS so that they could be sure of entrapping as many motorists as they can? It's about time that shop keepers and landowners wake up to the fact that they will be losing customers because of the activities of these PPCs (Parasite Parking Companies).
    Last edited by trisontana; 26-08-2011 at 9:55 AM.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • notts_phil
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    • 26th Aug 11, 9:07 AM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 9:07 AM
    Minniehaha

    Dont even bother phoning the company, nothing will happen they will tell you to appeal.

    The is no such thing as an appeal, it just saves them £2.50 on getting your address details from the DVLA

    You will over the next few months get various threatening letters, but if you look on the stickies at the top of this board you will see what to get and be able to play snap.

    So follow this advice and no need to feel gutted.

    You wouldnt fall for email scams would you?
  • Minniehaha
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    • 26th Aug 11, 11:28 AM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 11:28 AM
    Many thanks for your replys. It is not me that will get the court summons, but my daughter and daughter in law. We were booked 7 minutes over the allotted time. I spoke by phone to one of the retailers when we got home, they said the man is there all day every day sat waiting in his car.
    If this is the same as a scam e-mail, how come they can get away with this ? Ruined our family day ! But will take your advice. Thanks again.
    Letters in the post to Pizza Hut and other retailers in the retail park.
    • trisontana
    • By trisontana 26th Aug 11, 11:38 AM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 11:38 AM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 11:38 AM
    Last year UKCPS were thrown off a retail park in the Manchester area for "aggressive ticketing and harrasment of customers".

    As for a court summons that won't happen, especially if no contact is made with the parking company. On that note please be careful what you say on here as staff from UKCPS monitor this forum hoping to glean information regarding the identity of the driver.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • AlexisV
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    • 26th Aug 11, 11:59 AM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 11:59 AM
    Expect a PM from Peter Haswell spouting some guff. Ignore him.
  • Minniehaha
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    • 26th Aug 11, 12:36 PM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 12:36 PM
    Thanks again, for your help. I don't understand why they don't put parking meters in these places, at least everyone knows where they stand.

    Pizza Hut customers were queued out on the pavement when we left, so I hope no one else got a ticket !
    • trisontana
    • By trisontana 26th Aug 11, 12:46 PM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 12:46 PM
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    • 26th Aug 11, 12:46 PM
    But why have that artificial time limit when, as you said, the car-park was only half full? Once again that this proves that PPCs are not there to "manage" parking, but to con money out as many people as possible over silly made up "rules".
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • notts_phil
    You only get a summons for a magistrates court. You have dine nothing illegal.
  • notts_phil
    Is peter hasbeen still hanging round trying to fool people?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 26th Aug 11, 1:10 PM
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    Coupon-mad
    EDITED FOR NEW READERS (2014)





    SEE MY SIGNATURE - THE ADVICE HAS CHANGED FROM 2013 ONWARDS. THIS THREAD IS ANCIENT - HAD YOU NOT NOTICED IT'S FROM 2011???

    DO NOT IGNORE A FAKE PCN, PLEASE CLICK NOW TO PAGE ONE OF THE FORUM:


    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163

    DO NOT IGNORE A FAKE PCN, PLEASE CLICK NOW TO PAGE ONE OF THE FORUM:

    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

    DO NOT IGNORE A FAKE PCN, PLEASE CLICK NOW TO PAGE ONE OF THE FORUM:

    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 28-02-2014 at 10:19 AM.
    PCN in a private car park in England/Wales? DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    USE THE 'FORUM JUMP' ON RIGHT, GO TO THE PARKING TICKETS FORUM. READ THE 'NEWBIES' THREAD.
    Do NOT read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

  • Minniehaha
    Many thanks again for your replies. I had a very sleepless night with worry over this and I won't be going back there again !
    • Kite2010
    • By Kite2010 26th Aug 11, 9:03 PM
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    Kite2010
    Send a letter to the manager of that Pizza Hut & any other shops on the retail park that thanks to harassement from a contractor acting on their behalf (the PPC) you shall no longer be spending your money there instead at (name local rival) where they don't harasse paying customers with made-up parking invoices.
  • robredz
    Send a letter to the manager of that Pizza Hut & any other shops on the retail park that thanks to harassement from a contractor acting on their behalf (the PPC) you shall no longer be spending your money there instead at (name local rival) where they don't harasse paying customers with made-up parking invoices.
    Originally posted by Kite2010

    I would find out who the Managing Agents are for the park, as it is THEY who have brought in the PPC, the retailers will have no say in the matter, and are most likely as annoyed as customers who have had the unenforceable invoices due to the adverse effect on their trade of the ppc.

    For those aggrieved by Parking Eye on the Mostyn Champneys in Llandudno, address complaints to the site manager:

    Colin Gilligan
    01244 534 354 (option 2) or email info@broughton-park.com

    The managing agents are Savills

    Savills (Manchester)
    Fountain Court
    68 Fountain St
    Manchester
    M2 2FE

    0161 236 8644

    Only by heaping odium on those who will collude with these parasites will we show them their error in bringing the ppcs in.

    If we can find this information for other retail parks, we can start attacking the organ grinder, rather than their greedy not so tame monkeys.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 27th Aug 11, 8:49 PM
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    Coupon-mad
    EDITED FOR NEW READERS (2014)





    SEE MY SIGNATURE - THE ADVICE HAS CHANGED FROM 2013 ONWARDS. THIS THREAD IS ANCIENT - HAD YOU NOT NOTICED IT'S FROM 2011???

    DO NOT IGNORE A FAKE PCN, PLEASE CLICK NOW TO PAGE ONE OF THE FORUM:


    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163




    DO NOT REPLY HERE, GO TO PAGE ONE AND READ THE NEWBIES THREAD AND IF YOU STILL HAVE QUESTIONS YOU WILL THEN BE ON PAGE ONE AND CAN START A NEW THREAD

    This thread is ancient - use the forum jump on the right and read the current advice instead!

    DO NOT IGNORE A FAKE PCN, PLEASE CLICK NOW TO PAGE ONE OF THE FORUM:

    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

    DO NOT IGNORE A FAKE PCN, PLEASE CLICK NOW TO PAGE ONE OF THE FORUM:

    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 03-12-2014 at 1:42 PM.
    PCN in a private car park in England/Wales? DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    USE THE 'FORUM JUMP' ON RIGHT, GO TO THE PARKING TICKETS FORUM. READ THE 'NEWBIES' THREAD.
    Do NOT read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

  • Minniehaha
    No private messages so far ! Thanks everyone !
  • Minniehaha
    Update : Both girls have recieved letters saying they can still only pay £65 if they pay in the next few days or the charge will increase to £100 ! I have told them both to ignore the letters which are not very professional looking anyway. I will try and scan one on for people to see. Thanks for all your help.
  • Minniehaha
    They have now recieved 2nd letter, It's now £100, next letter is them being taken to court !!
    • Inflatable Armadillo
    • By Inflatable Armadillo 25th Sep 11, 8:20 PM
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    Inflatable Armadillo
    They have now recieved 2nd letter, It's now £100, next letter is them being taken to court !!
    Originally posted by Minniehaha
    Tell them to stay strong, they are not going to be taking your daughter and daughter-in-law to court, this is all part of the scam and the harassment angle. They want 'you' to cave in, they want to scare 'you' and then once they have 'your' money, they are laughing all the way to the bank with it, knowing they have suckered yet another person out of their hard-earned cash!

    If 'you' have not contacted them then the threat-o-grams will stop arriving soon and they will give in and move on to other targets. If they smell blood (or actually cash!) they will keep on for as long as possible.

    Did you get any replies from the the retailers on the site to your letters? What you should do, is save up the threat-o-grams and post photo-copies (with all personal details removed) to all the shop managers on the site and direct them to this website.
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