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    • MountainMan101
    • By MountainMan101 24th Sep 08, 11:08 PM
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    Fair day rate for a plumber
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    • 24th Sep 08, 11:08 PM
    Fair day rate for a plumber 24th Sep 08 at 11:08 PM
    As the title says, based on recent quotes (say last 6 months), what the current day rate for a decent (well qualified and experienced plumber) doing a good 8+ hour day. Specifically in the Midlands area.

    Thanks,
    Philip
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  • EliteHeat
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    • 26th Sep 08, 1:15 PM
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    • 26th Sep 08, 1:15 PM
    Why would you want a day rate?
  • caveman118
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    • 26th Sep 08, 11:29 PM
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    • 26th Sep 08, 11:29 PM
    Agreed, hourly rates and day rates best avoided. Get a price for the job. loads of honest tradesmen will admit theyre a lot more motivated to work quicker on a job thats been priced opposed to hourly rate.

    but anywhere between £20-40ph
  • sparky883
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    • 29th Sep 08, 6:00 PM
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    • 29th Sep 08, 6:00 PM
    £140 per day is what we charge,But we dont really do "day rate" as we convince the customer to go for a price its in everyones best interest.
    TBH i am a bit fed up of members of the public asking for "day rate" it is there for B2B use.
    Your work will not be cheaper if its on a day rate (far from it)
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    • freeasabird
    • By freeasabird 30th Sep 08, 3:12 PM
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    • 30th Sep 08, 3:12 PM
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    • 30th Sep 08, 3:12 PM
    I hope the OP doesn't mind me responding to this. I've got a plumber fitting a shower for me on an hourly rate and I did wonder why he doesn't charge a set rate for the job. The new shower is the updated equivalent of the old one so hopefully (fingers crossed) it shouldn't take him too long to fit it. I will remember this for next time.
    • christineperseus
    • By christineperseus 30th Sep 08, 3:20 PM
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    • 30th Sep 08, 3:20 PM
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    • 30th Sep 08, 3:20 PM
    Well I paid £50 for having a pressure reducing valve changed.........(I had the valve so wasn't paying any materials)
    He wasn't in the house more than 30mins AND he has previously done lots of work for us..........
    He's cetainly off our Christmas card list - AND it was CASH..........
  • lulusaver
    • #7
    • 30th Sep 08, 3:25 PM
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    • 30th Sep 08, 3:25 PM
    I have my own electrical company and we use different plumbers according to needs. Our emergency/repair plumber charges upwards of £45 per hour but will always fit you in that day if it is an emergency etc. He specialises in central heating and call outs

    Locally (Plymouth) plumbers who will work on new builds etc will charge about £200-£250 a day.
  • Treadstone009
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    • 12th Dec 08, 4:45 PM
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    • 12th Dec 08, 4:45 PM
    Well I paid £50 for having a pressure reducing valve changed.........(I had the valve so wasn't paying any materials)
    He wasn't in the house more than 30mins AND he has previously done lots of work for us..........
    He's cetainly off our Christmas card list - AND it was CASH..........
    Originally posted by christineperseus
    Thats not unreasonable imo, about what i'd pay for one specific job lasting upto an hour, remember he has spend maybe 10 minutes + each way travel time to reach you possibly more if he doesn't know the area, advertising costs, costs of maintaining kit/tools van etc, mobile phone bills, all has to be considered.
  • skintscouser
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    • 12th Dec 08, 10:11 PM
    Getting the best price for a good job.
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    • 12th Dec 08, 10:11 PM
    This is a bit of a minefield. I hope this post may paint a clearer picture and explain what it's like to be self employed so you can see why what may at first seem steep is a reasonable charge. I am self employed (doing garden design). Most of my mates are s/e too. Whatever trade people are in, there are some general rules worth bearing in mind.

    The key is to try your best to get someone that you feel comfortable doing the job for you and you need to clarify everything beforehand if possible so there is no room for any hidden charges etc. Some kind of reference or recommendation is helpful. If you are not comfortable, DO NOT take them on. In the case of someone elderly or disabled, hopefully a neighbour or family member could check things out.

    You will find that most people will charge a fair rate and do a good job. This can vary. So it may be a £50 one-off., maybe it's £100 or £150 for a day. Don't forget, most, sadly not all people are honest and just tryiing to earn a half-decent living and cover their expenses too.If you paid a lawyer or other professional for an hour, how much would they charge you? The costs of petrol and travel time all clock up and we have to pay tax etc. I like being my own boss, but it's no cake walk as I am sure you will know and there's no statutory holidays, no annual leave, when you don't work, you don't get paid. I have also been ripped off by customers who have a good job done then won't pay up, but that never gets on the tele.

    There sadly are some cowboys out there who will park their proverbial horse in your garden, let it s__t in there too whilst ripping you off. Any guarantee of the job being decent or your money back disappears as they shout 'giddy up' and ride off down the street never to be seen again.

    These characters as seen on Rogue Traders give us all a bad name and create mass distrust and paranoia. But if you check people out, clarify everything including the price beforehand so you feel comfortable about it / them, you are protecting your interests.
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  • sellercheckuk
    As the title says, based on recent quotes (say last 6 months), what the current day rate for a decent (well qualified and experienced plumber) doing a good 8+ hour day. Specifically in the Midlands area.

    Thanks,
    Philip
    Originally posted by MountainMan101
    "A typical hourly rate is £40 for the first hour and £30 for subsequent hours, though this will vary massively."
    http://www.ourproperty.co.uk/guides/plumber-p1.html

    I've just paid a 'Heating engineer'/plumber for a fixed price job (including new gas boiler, thermostat, copper tube, valves wiring, etc.) that took him 2 full (10 hours each) days and reckon that the daily rate for 'labour' alone works out at approx £400, but the total job price was VERY competetive versus others, bearing in mind the total amount of work that was done.
    As has been said, it depends on the individual plumber/contractor.
    The one I used has over 30 years experience and in my opinion is a 'hard worker' who possibly got a lot more done in the time spent than other would have.
    • phill99
    • By phill99 7th Nov 10, 6:59 PM
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    Why, oh why, oh why have you responded to a Post that is over 2 years old? Have you nothing better to do than trawl through MSE looking for old posts that you can pointlessly comment on?
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    • keystone
    • By keystone 7th Nov 10, 9:07 PM
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    I'm of the view that any threads not seeing a new post after a period of (say) 6 months be locked but left available for archival reference.

    What say you mods?

    Cheers
  • sellercheckuk
    Why, oh why, oh why have you responded to a Post that is over 2 years old? Have you nothing better to do than trawl through MSE looking for old posts that you can pointlessly comment on?
    Originally posted by phill99
    Because, as you might have noticed (if you read aand understood my post) the topic is of interest to me and, in my opinion, is likely to be relevant to others at this time of year, when there's often the greatest motivation to get a boiler replaced, which involves the use of a plumber.
    As this is a forum that's open to everyone and the topic (discussion thread) is 'live' and no rule has been broken, it seems to me that it's you that has a 'problem' with choosing where, when and what to post.
    Maybe you could/should consider 'Forum Etiquette'....
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=3477038

    i.e. Your post does not contribute to the subject of the discussion and is apparently no more than a personal attack.
    Why, oh why have you spent the time doing that when instead you could have simply ignored it? (rhetorical). Oh, the irony!
    • Tom_Jones
    • By Tom_Jones 8th Nov 10, 3:27 PM
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    I pay my plumbers £27 an hour, but they get a fully expensed company van, so I would say £45 an hour is reasonable as this is what I charge the customer after the £90 initial callout for the first hour.
  • UKoap
    FWIW.. Lothian Health Board pay on call locum doctors £45 per hour. Perhaps they should all requalify as Plumbers?
    • tanith
    • By tanith 14th Feb 11, 1:16 PM
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    The plumber we use charges £40 ph and thats mates rates but he does a good job and cleans up after himself..
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  • cupcakesmum
    Agh the same old myths
    The only plumbers who earn £100k a year work 80 hours a week and are based in London where a basic first hour call out charge is over £100! Regional plumbing and heating engineers are now getting sqeezed as they can't even mark up materials and appliances becase prices are so readily available online to customers and they can't even charge petrol to go to the merchants to pick materials up. So most plumbers are reduced to charging for their labour, but an hourly rate has to cover their own wages, their own van, fuel, a van full of tools and plant, annual fees to GasSafe, insurance and a cost of about £3k every 3 years to renew their training. So if you are on PAYE and your employer provides everything for you, and you don;t have to risk your house if something goes wrong, and yet you still want to put your local plumebr through the ringer for charging £20ph, remember exactly what s/he is having to pay for out of their own pocket. And let's not forget that if you have a plumber (or more specifically a qualified heating engineer) it IS a skilled profession which carries an enormous amount of risk.
  • heating-eng
    £120 per day is what we charge
    But normally work on price.
    The days of charging £250 /£400 a day are long gone in Leeds.
    X British Gas engineer and X BG sales adviser.
    Please don,t let this put you off.
  • heating-eng
    I pay my plumbers £27 an hour, but they get a fully expensed company van, so I would say £45 an hour is reasonable as this is what I charge the customer after the £90 initial callout for the first hour.
    Originally posted by Tom_Jones
    Do you have any jobs
    X British Gas engineer and X BG sales adviser.
    Please don,t let this put you off.
  • heating-eng
    The plumber we use charges £40 ph and thats mates rates but he does a good job and cleans up after himself..
    Originally posted by tanith
    for £40 ph i will buy the coffee and make my own
    X British Gas engineer and X BG sales adviser.
    Please don,t let this put you off.
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