Do I tell DWP ?

50Twuncle · 1 February 2017 at 1:16PM

I am on the verge of applying for a transfer from DLA to PIP
I need to know whether DWP need to be aware that I am working for 3 half days a week ?

I see nothing on the application form - specifically asking this - but when I am assessed - the assessor may ask how I get to work (I drive 1 mile and walk 100 yards to my place of work) - This is important - since at the moment, I receive DLA mid care - and am now hoping for Mobility to be added (I had a new knee 6 months ago and it helped in reducing pain but not mobility), if they know that I can just make (struggle) 100 yards - then they may give me zero mobility points.
Do DWP talk with HMRC
What they don't need to know - they will not be told !

rockingbilly · 1 February 2017 at 2:39PM

50Twuncle wrote: »

I am on the verge of applying for a transfer from DLA to PIP
I need to know whether DWP need to be aware that I am working for 3 half days a week ?

I see nothing on the application form - specifically asking this - but when I am assessed - the assessor may ask how I get to work (I drive 1 mile and walk 100 yards to my place of work) - This is important - since at the moment, I receive DLA mid care - and am now hoping for Mobility to be added (I had a new knee 6 months ago and it helped in reducing pain but not mobility), if they know that I can just make (struggle) 100 yards - then they may give me zero mobility points.
Do DWP talk with HMRC
What they don't need to know - they will not be told !

The choice is yours to make.
However admitting that you manage to walk at least 100 yards 6 times a week to get to and from work will certainly cause the assessor to question your entitlement to PIP.
I have two written reports from the Pain Clinic and from my GP that says that I struggle to walk 10 yards. When I send those in to the DWP for my PIP transfer I doubt very much if they will be taken seriously given that the normal distance from the waiting room to the assessing room is at least 20 yards!
So if you have evidence to prove your limited walking distance then yes I would consider going for PIP.
But be warned the assessor has the power to overrule any evidence that you send in if they think it is wrong.

Ames · 1 February 2017 at 3:25PM

I've known people to be asked at the face to face about their work history.

Although the limit for standard rate PIP is 50m it's not as simple as that - there's the safely, reliably, and repeatedly. If it takes you more than twice as long as a healthy person then in theory you should qualify but will probably have to appeal.

Can you get help from CAB or similar?

poppy12345 · 1 February 2017 at 3:38PM

50Twuncle wrote: »

I am on the verge of applying for a transfer from DLA to PIP
I need to know whether DWP need to be aware that I am working for 3 half days a week ?

I see nothing on the application form - specifically asking this - but when I am assessed - the assessor may ask how I get to work (I drive 1 mile and walk 100 yards to my place of work) - This is important - since at the moment, I receive DLA mid care - and am now hoping for Mobility to be added (I had a new knee 6 months ago and it helped in reducing pain but not mobility), if they know that I can just make (struggle) 100 yards - then they may give me zero mobility points.
Do DWP talk with HMRC
What they don't need to know - they will not be told !

I would never keep anything from DWP because there's always that 1 person that could make that call and tell them you're working. When i had my 2 PIP assessments i was asked "do you work" as it happens i don't but if i did then i would have said yes. Ames is right about the safely, reliably, and repeatedly part but it's still 50 yards for standard mobility and you just said you walk 100 yards to work everyday. I agree with Ames you may need to appeal.

50Twuncle · 1 February 2017 at 4:37PM

rockingbilly wrote: »

The choice is yours to make.
However admitting that you manage to walk at least 100 yards 6 times a week to get to and from work will certainly cause the assessor to question your entitlement to PIP.
I have two written reports from the Pain Clinic and from my GP that says that I struggle to walk 10 yards. When I send those in to the DWP for my PIP transfer I doubt very much if they will be taken seriously given that the normal distance from the waiting room to the assessing room is at least 20 yards!
So if you have evidence to prove your limited walking distance then yes I would consider going for PIP.
But be warned the assessor has the power to overrule any evidence that you send in if they think it is wrong.

entitlement to PIP - Mobility maybe - but CARE is the same as DLA only I have far greater needs than 12 years ago when I was given medium care on an indefinite basis - so they will have to try extremely hard before they remove that from me !
I WILL appeal and keep on appealing

50Twuncle · 1 February 2017 at 4:40PM

poppy12345 wrote: »

I would never keep anything from DWP because there's always that 1 person that could make that call and tell them you're working. When i had my 2 PIP assessments i was asked "do you work" as it happens i don't but if i did then i would have said yes. Ames is right about the safely, reliably, and repeatedly part but it's still 50 yards for standard mobility and you just said you walk 100 yards to work everyday. I agree with Ames you may need to appeal.

This is the problem - By not giving them the information, when they don't ask - is that wrong ?
Surely - it is up to them to ask me ?
If they do ask - then obviously I will tell them .....

DomRavioli · 1 February 2017 at 5:41PM

50Twuncle wrote: »

This is the problem - By not giving them the information, when they don't ask - is that wrong ?
Surely - it is up to them to ask me ?
If they do ask - then obviously I will tell them .....

But by not telling them, and with holding a material fact (and one that may affect any award given), you may be committing fraud on the grounds of with holding a material fact that could have an impact on any award, therefore obtaining this part of a benefit potentially illegally.

Please do consult someone with specific specialist knowledge before embarking on that road, because it can land you in a heap of trouble.

poppy12345 · 1 February 2017 at 5:42PM

50Twuncle wrote: »

This is the problem - By not giving them the information, when they don't ask - is that wrong ?
Surely - it is up to them to ask me ?
If they do ask - then obviously I will tell them .....

I also believe HMRC share info with DWP. For this reason i would never keep anything from them. At the end of the day you have to ask yourself "is it worth it" like i said in both my assessments i was asked if i work.

50Twuncle · 1 February 2017 at 6:19PM

Thanks All for your input !

GlasweJen · 1 February 2017 at 7:08PM

I was asked about work; what I did, how I got there and what adaptions had my work put in place.

I was refused mobility because I told them that I got to work by either taking a taxi or using the works car share scheme. They actually wrote on my refusal that I was not considered unable to plan a route because I knew how to phone a taxi! Was obviously over turned at tribunal.

50Twuncle · 1 February 2017 at 7:24PM

Thanks I will bear that in mind

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