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Minimal furniture in a rented property?
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OliveOyl_2
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DS2 is off to uni, missed out on the halls and so has arranged a private rental of a flat with 3 others.
Finally they sent through the inventory last night (he moves in tomorrow :eek: ) and in his bedroom there is:
1 bed
1 lampshade
1 pr of curtains
And that's it!
Is that legal? It doesn't seem reasonable to call that furnished. If it were me I'd love the minimalistic look, but he needs somewhere to study, and somewhere to put his clothes at least!
Finally they sent through the inventory last night (he moves in tomorrow :eek: ) and in his bedroom there is:
1 bed
1 lampshade
1 pr of curtains
And that's it!
Is that legal? It doesn't seem reasonable to call that furnished. If it were me I'd love the minimalistic look, but he needs somewhere to study, and somewhere to put his clothes at least!
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It is considered sensible (from a landlord's point of view) to leave the minimum essential items in a 'furnished' flat these days. The reason for this is the landlord is responsible for replacing anything he has provided that wears our, breaks down etc so the less he leaves there the less he will be liable for when it comes to replacement.0
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I agree, and in the past when I have rented I've been glad that the place wasn't stuffed with family cast offs (we're talking in the 1980's here), what I was curious about was, what the minimum you could reasonably get away with?
My son is having to take a desk and a cupboard from home, we can't manage a wardrobe in my car, and we'll get a cheap chair locally. So I began wondering what ff really meant!0 -
I don't see any problems legally with this as the furnished part of the tennancy would cover for all of the other rooms and items in them. What I would check is how much rent is to be paid compared to the others in the house share and what they are getting in their rooms. Some house shares have a varying rate for each sharer dependant on the size etc of their room. Other shares just pull straws to see who gets what room and each pays the same regardless of the size of their room.
Just Googled 'legal definition fully furnished' and this came up:
There is no legal definition of what furniture must be provided or its condition if a property is let as furnished. Normally you should be able to expect a level of furnishing that would be reasonable to enable you to live in the accommodation, this includes:-
<LI class=bullet>table and chairs in the kitchen/living room; <LI class=bullet>sofa and/or armchairs in the living room; <LI class=bullet>a bed and storage for clothes in each bedroom; <LI class=bullet>heating appliances; <LI class=bullet>curtains and floor coverings;
- a cooker, fridge, kitchen utensils and crockery
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I've rented many places, and I would consider "furnished" to include curtains, bed, wardrobe, drawers and a desk (for student lets) at the very minimum.
No wardrobe is bizarre, and would imply "part furnished". Did they not look at the place before signing and ask what was included in the rent?Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')
No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)0 -
When they looked about 4 weeks ago, there was more furniture.
The inventory was e-mailed last night :rolleyes:0 -
You'd supply cooker, fridge, beds, sofa of some sort, curtains and that would be all necessary to describe as 'furnished'. Wardrobes etc would nowadays not have to be included unless they were fitted. You mention 'ff' in your last reply, I guess meaning fully furnished - was that how the letting was described? If so I think you'd expect more than the basic I listed above!0
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If this property was advertised through the Uni then I believe it has to come with a lot more - I looked into this 3 years ago and you LOADS of stuff to comply including: each bedroom to have bed, wardrobe and desk the kitchen to have a all white goods and a fire blanket, smoke alarms up & down stairs, a dining area and seating area the list was long!
If this is a private rental with no connection to the Uni then you get what you see.
As he is moving in tomorrow it sounds like you don't have much choice, I'd to to Argos and buy the cloth furniture like: http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/8758835/Trail/searchtext%3EWARDROBE.htm0 -
You mention that more furniture was there at the time they viewed it, and so they could reasonably have assumed that what they saw would be provided, unless the person showing them round told them otherwise. I would suggest a quick and polite message stating this to the landlord, and saying that they really need things like wardrobes (everything that he needs; that he saw was there when he viewed; yet is not listed in the inventory).
Of course, it is possible that the agent simply did not bother to include everything on the inventory, and the stuff he say will turn out to be there when he arrives.0 -
having read Voyager's post it could be that the LL supplies the stuff on the inventory and the stuff there when they viewed has been left by previous tenants - hence LL has not put on inventory so he has no responsiblility for it. And if any of it breaks your son has no responsibility to replace it either.0
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I think I agree Voyager, there may be more there when we arrive tomorrow - I'm hopeful!
If not, we'll talk to the uni, and the landlord.
I didn't want to appear a demanding tenant, but I wasn't sure that their supply was reasonable or adequate.
Thanks guys.0
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