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I was so hoping for some update, I am just back from Holiday and I have the exact same letter again from them as I have posted a few posts above!!!!
What the hell am I gonna do now?
ignore it for now...... you've set the standard leave it with me to ponder mate...... i'll come back to you tomorrow. :beer:
Was it this letter? #196
When did you actually post this? #170 and when was it signed for?
If so then maybe best to notify CRA's and get them to remove as account is now in default status as DCA can't validate account..... chat soon.... i'll have a wee think! lol2010 - year of the troll
Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
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never-in-doubt wrote: »ignore it for now...... you've set the standard leave it with me to ponder mate...... i'll come back to you tomorrow. :beer:
Was it this letter? #196
When did you actually post this? #170 and when was it signed for?
If so then maybe best to notify CRA's and get them to remove as account is now in default status as DCA can't validate account..... chat soon.... i'll have a wee think! lol
Yes thats the letter in post 196 as above, I have the exact same letter and the terms and conditions.
I posted the other letter on the 19th and it was signed for on the 22nd of June!
I am now getting pssted off with them, They are just sending what they likeIf I have been helpful - Hit the Thanks button0 -
Yes thats the letter in post 196 as above, I have the exact same letter and the terms and conditions.
I posted the other letter on the 19th and it was signed for on the 22nd of June!
I am now getting pssted off with them, They are just sending what they like
Ok, can you tell me what date the letter is - the one you just received and does it say 'with ref to your letter dated 19th June' or whatever? I'm trying to establish if this is 'one of the many letters' they told you you'd be getting......
Also, did you ever receive the 'statement of default' (whatever that may be) that they told you was sent on 4th July? #196
Mate sorry to say this but it looks like the 'last resort' may have to be enforcement of removal through the courts because they are clearly in breach of the CCA now but the only way to enfore is via the courts.....
That in itself carries some risk....... If I were you, i'd wait til the end of the month and see what they post you - it could be that they are behind and are still replying to another letter or something... who knows with these muppets? I'm just saying if it were me, i'd just chill for a couple of weeks and see what arrives through the door. If anything, on 1st August we'll send them an official default notice and see how they like it! :beer:2010 - year of the troll
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never-in-doubt wrote: »Ok, can you tell me what date the letter is - the one you just received and does it say 'with ref to your letter dated 19th June' or whatever? I'm trying to establish if this is 'one of the many letters' they told you you'd be getting......
The letter has the date of the 26th June 2009, It just say's Thank you for your recent letter, However the envelope is dated the 3rd of July and it popped through my door sometime last week as I was away on holiday.
Also, did you ever receive the 'statement of default' (whatever that may be) that they told you was sent on 4th July? #196
No I have not received any statement of default from them as yet.
Mate sorry to say this but it looks like the 'last resort' may have to be enforcement of removal through the courts because they are clearly in breach of the CCA now but the only way to enfore is via the courts.....
I really don'y fancy the court action, But I guess it will teach the idiots a lesson.
That in itself carries some risk....... If I were you, i'd wait til the end of the month and see what they post you - it could be that they are behind and are still replying to another letter or something... who knows with these muppets? I'm just saying if it were me, i'd just chill for a couple of weeks and see what arrives through the door. If anything, on 1st August we'll send them an official default notice and see how they like it! :beer:
I will sit back and relax and see what the postman brings to me over the next few weeks, I know from past dealings with Capital One that there post is always very slow at getting to the customer, There post room works in a weird way as I asked before what happens. They explained to me that they write the letter, it's emailed to printers, they print it out and it's sent back to the staff member who wrote it, who checks it and then it's send out to us!!!
Oh what risks are involved with court?
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never-in-doubt wrote: »Nice one mate, sit back and relax. The risks with court are the judge may find in their favour...... unlikely but always a risk mate.
Keep us posted on any developments..... :beer:
I guess that is very true.
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I guess that is very true.
Don't worry I will post any replies I get from them here 1st
ok mate and we'll catch up again on 1st August lol...... Its a pain waiting, I know, but to be honest other than court you cannot force a faster response..... it may be worth trying to get their H.O address and the name of an excec and send a copy to them. Or executive complaints dept.2010 - year of the troll
Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
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never-in-doubt wrote: »ok mate and we'll catch up again on 1st August lol...... Its a pain waiting, I know, but to be honest other than court you cannot force a faster response..... it may be worth trying to get their H.O address and the name of an excec and send a copy to them. Or executive complaints dept.
I will wait till I get a reply, I do have an email address for the CE of Capital One, I used that a few months back as I never got any reply when I was sending things by post.
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Well here we go again, I am not confident at all now that I have received such a letter from Capital One. I think it’s a case of I will need to wait until the default simply drops off my CRA’s .
This is a copy of the letter they sent me, I have re-typed it word for word and only XXX personal information from the letter for obvious reasons.
9th July 2009
Dear Marcellep
Account Number 1234567890
Thank you for your continued communication regarding your account.
To begin with, I would like to make it clear that we do not intend to continue with protracted correspondence with you regarding the removal of your default notice.
I would also like to make it clear that we are in no doubt that the default noticed was issued to you on the 12th May 2005 was produced correctly and therefore there is no dispute on your account regarding this matter.
You opened your account in October 2002 when you signed and returned the terms and conditions of your credit agreement to us. You then continued to operate your account in accordance with these terms and conditions for approximately two and a half years.
You continued to make purchases with your card until March 2005 and made payments to us until June 2005. The continued use of your card and your sustained period of making payments highlights your consent and clearly illustrates that you were operating your account on the basis of an agreement between yourself and capital one bank Europe plc.
Your outstanding balance is currently £385.77
With regards to your request to supply you with a copy of your default notice, as Kelly and Steve advised you in their previous letters, we are not officially obliged to provide you with a copy of the formal default notice. However, I have enclosed a copy of the notes which appeared on your account between the 13th April and the 12th May 2005. I highlight notes on the 13th April 2005 were you refuse to pay unless we stop apply fee’s. You also advised you would go to citizen advice bureau.
On the same day, we advised you that a default notice would possibly be issued. This was because of your heavy spending in March 2005 caused your account balance to reach £392.12. This equates to almost twice the amount of your agreed credit limit of £200.
In fact, as Kelly advised you in her letter dated the 4th June 2009, and I have highlighted on your enclosed notes, a default was issued on the 22nd April to request you pay the over limit amount. Because you did not pay the over limit amount, a statement of default was issued on the 12th May 2005 for £440.88. The default letters were sent to your address we held on file for you at that time. Please be aware, it is your responsibility to ensure we have the correct address on file for you.
You telephone in on the 19th May 2005 and spoke to Debitas Legal Services, our in house debt collection agency. You advised Debitas you were able to pay £50. Debitas advised you they would offer you an interest free payment plan to clear the default amount of £440.88. You agreed with Debitas, to an eight month payment plan of £55.11 each month. You made one payment of £55.11 with your debit card on the 19th May 2005. However, you broke the other seven payment agreements and that was the last payment we received from you.
Therefore, as Kelly and Steve both explained in their letters, we are not able to remove the default from your credit file as it was applied correctly.
You mentioned also section 10 of the Data Protection Act 1998. To explain under the DPA 1998 individuals have the right to ask an organisation to stop processing their personal data on the grounds that:- ·The processing is causing or is likely to cause substantial damage or distress; and
- ·The damage or distress is, or would be, unwarranted
You have failed to set out in your letter precisely which processing you object to and why you believe it is causing, or will cause you, unwarranted and substantial damage or distress. Capital one has not undertaken any processing of your data, which has to our knowledge caused, or is likely to have caused, substantial unwarranted damage or distress.
In any event, you’re not entitled to serve a notice under section 10 of the DPA for the following reasons:- ·Capital One informed you when you applied for your credit card and in the terms of your agreement how your data would be processed and you consented to the processing of your data by signing your credit agreement.
- ·The processing of your data is necessary for the legitimate interests of Capital One and the credit reference and fraud prevention agencies to which is disclosed and is not likely to prejudice your legitimate rights, freedoms or interests.
Your notice is entirely unjustified and inappropriate and as a result, Capital one is unable to comply with it.
Capital one believes also they are fully compliant with the Consumer credit act, the office of fair trading guidelines, the consumer protection from unfair trading regulations 2008 and all the consumer credit regulations 1983. I also believe that you received a separate response to your S78 query as you advised when you telephoned Karon Bullock on the 3rd July 2009.
If you’re still unhappy with the way your complaint has been handled, I strongly recommend that you contact the financial ombudsman service which is a free and impartial organisation which exists to mediate in disputes between customers and financial service companies. Their contact details are in our complaints leaflet which I have enclosed for you.
Yours sincerely
Patricia L Chadwick
Also within the letter I have a screen shots which says "Default sent" and a copy of 2mths statements.
So there you go thats the letter, What do I do from here?If I have been helpful - Hit the Thanks button0 -
Mate
Did they ever send you a CCA? Make sure you don't get confused - it is imperitive. Have you received a true copy of the original CCA from Capital One?
Regards to the rest, let me digest it but is the content accurate, i.e. do you pretty much agree with what they are saying? please PM me that answer - don't leave it open on here for obvious reasons.
I'll be back round 9pm if you want to chat....... if not PM me a time to be here.
Don't worry, lots of avenues to explore yet - we may just have to serve them with CPR 31.16 - see how they like that one!
Have you got a CCA from them, I really nope not mate!2010 - year of the troll
Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
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