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Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

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  • adindas
    adindas Posts: 6,856 Forumite
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    edited 12 September 2017 at 2:31PM
    Herzlos wrote: »
    Are you trying to say that the UK hasn't been a reluctant member the whole time it's been in? That it hasn't been resisting the "ever closer union" everyone else wants?

    It is not just UK who is rejecting the more ever closer union. EU recognise this on the paper.
    http://www.politico.eu/article/breaking-politico-obtains-white-paper-on-eu-future/
    Herzlos wrote: »
    It's pretty obvious we're a nuisance to the EU, and money aside, they'll be glad to rid of us and our complaining.

    Yes they want to get rid of UK BUT
    - Still love the money. Well second net contributor to the EU budget
    - Still love the fact they UK is contributing more in defense more than many EU countries in defending EU against aggressor within NATO.
    - Still want UK contribution in sharing resources in intelligent and security against terrorism.
  • :rotfl:
    Oh come on!
    Are they starting to move now?
    Just before we leave?
    Immediately we have left?
    When?
    Because so far we have been threatened with so much ........... which has not materialised.
    Well no, it hasn't materialised because as you say...
    we have not left yet. ;)
  • A_Medium_Size_Jock
    A_Medium_Size_Jock Posts: 3,216 Forumite
    edited 12 September 2017 at 2:46PM
    Theophile wrote: »
    Well no, it hasn't materialised because as you say...
    You have not answered the question, which was:
    Are they starting to move now?
    Just before we leave?
    Immediately we have left?
    When?
    Of these that you mentioned:
    Theophile wrote: »
    They'll also love the many banking/insurance/clearing jobs coming their way.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Theophile wrote: »
    Well no, it hasn't materialised because as you say...


    Treasury, May 2016;

    “There is a clear central conclusion, a VOTE to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to the economy, that shock would push the economy into recession, and add 500,000 to the unemployed number







    Televised Select Committee revealed how Remain campaign Treasury forecasts were based on nothing more than highly erroneous input assumptions as ordered by Cameron to 'suit the political narrative of the time';


    Fri 21 Oct 2016


    bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08021fd


  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Osborne + Alan Johnson said few days before the referendum that Leave vote would result in emergency budget £30 billion cuts and tax rises
    Treasury spin was that this would happen “within weeks” of the referendum.

    The central Treasury forecast was for a ‘brief shallow recession’, but the entire Remain establishment told us we’d be putting a bomb under our economy
    Remains £4300 cut to every household;
    ‘Neither government departments nor other spokespeople for the remain side should repeat (this) mistaken assertion… to persist with this claim would be to misrepresent the Treasury’s own work’. SOURCE: Treasury Select Committee.
  • Conrad wrote: »
    The central Treasury forecast was for a ‘brief shallow recession’, but the entire Remain establishment told us we’d be putting a bomb under our economy

    Conrad you really should stop posting other people's copyrighted work without any attribution or quoting whatsoever as it's against forum rules.

    That excerpt is from noted anti-EU tory backbencher John Redwood's blog site - and it seems most of what you post is just copy & pasted from Brexiteer propaganda sites without any effort to use quotes, links or attribution.

    Poor form...
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Conrad wrote: »


    Treasury, May 2016;

    “There is a clear central conclusion, a VOTE to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to the economy, that shock would push the economy into recession, and add 500,000 to the unemployed number







    Televised Select Committee revealed how Remain campaign Treasury forecasts were based on nothing more than highly erroneous input assumptions as ordered by Cameron to 'suit the political narrative of the time';


    Fri 21 Oct 2016


    bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08021fd



    Do you think they meant that we would add 500k to the unemployed numbers the day after 23 June 2016?
  • Theophile wrote: »
    Do you think they meant that we would add 500k to the unemployed numbers the day after 23 June 2016?
    It depends upon how you define "immediate" - but over a year later would not be included in that definition, methinks.
    Especially when employment is a record highs, eh. ;)
  • It depends upon how you define "immediate" - but over a year later would not be included in that definition, methinks.
    Especially when employment is a record highs, eh. ;)
    Actually leaving would be necessary to assess the actual impact of leaving. And as you said...
    we have not left yet. ;)
  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,182 Forumite
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    posh*spice wrote: »
    Yes you want to be in a United States of Europe. The majority in this country don't.

    We won. You lost.

    What's really annoying about your posts is that you seem to think your position is a virtuous one, whereas wanting to Leave the EU has no virtue. You are wrong. Ask Dennis Skinner and Frank Field.

    What is it you think you won?
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