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  • RandomCurve
    RandomCurve Posts: 1,637 Forumite
    pau1200 wrote: »
    Ok I think im going to need some help with my defense. Ive spent sone time comparing word for word my response with others there are subtle differences and they have been smarter with the wordings. Im not sure if the defense template fits as they have rewordered there points.

    Any help will be great.


    38. The Claimant has enclosed within his supporting documents an extract of the Respondent’s defence in respect to the CISAS case reference ??????????. The Respondent notes that such a case relates to a completely separate matter which the Claimant was not a party to. Such being a confidential document in any event. The Respondent fails to see the
    relevance of this document to the Claimant’s application and furthermore the Claimant has not provided an explanation for the same. The Claimant is hereby put to strict proof thereof.


    Response to add for Paragraph 38


    "Paragraph 38
    The document referred to was not sent to the receiver as a confidential document, and the person receiving the document has given their permission for its use. The document entirely relevant (as explained in my CISA case) as it is conclusive proof that EE applied the March 2013 RPI rate in 2013 meaning that in 2014 EE have applied an annual RPI rate to an 11 month period (the 12 month RPI rate being 2.5% and not 2.7%). It is interesting to note that rather than defend my point that the contract does not allow EE to apply a 12 month rate to an 11 month period they chose instead to question the documented proof -which originated from their own legal team! I put EE to strict proof that EE have not applied a 12 month rate to an 11 month period."



    The docuent refer
  • RandomCurve
    RandomCurve Posts: 1,637 Forumite
    The first decision should be available in the next week. Whilst it will give some indication of which way this is likely to go until we have 5 to 10 decision it will be difficult to read one way or another.
  • EFC_1878
    EFC_1878 Posts: 14 Forumite
    Can probably get your price rises refunded, but officially you have missed the boat on the cancellation. If you can hold off for a couple of weeks until the adjudicators decisions start to come in we may be able to find grounds to reopen the case for cancellation for those who have yet to claim.

    Okay, cheers! I'll keep an eye out.

    Also, I think it's great that you are going to so much effort to help out others. Kudos.
  • RandomCurve
    RandomCurve Posts: 1,637 Forumite
    narika wrote: »
    Hi
    I'm on Orange and got the following response. may i know what response should i send as i am just confused as hell. any help is greatly appreciated.

    Response and the defence it was based on (so you can alter paragraph numbers) can be found here (Step 5):


    http://fightmobileincreases.com/fight-ee/fight-the-march-2014-price-rise/


    If you have not done so already please also send email FMI-1 to Ofcom:
    http://fightmobileincreases.com/pressure-ofcom/
  • RandomCurve
    RandomCurve Posts: 1,637 Forumite
    EFC_1878 wrote: »
    Okay, cheers! I'll keep an eye out.

    Also, I think it's great that you are going to so much effort to help out others. Kudos.


    On the change in T&Cs forum we are trying the following approach for "late claimants", We don't know if it will work yet - and will only work here is the adjudicators rule that EE have breached GC 9.6:


    As EE have not complied with GC 9.6 in that they never notified me of my potential right to a penalty free cancellation as required under GC 9.6 should a change in T&Cs be likely to be of material detriment to me, I was not put on alert that I needed to follow the link provided in the text message with any urgency.
    My late notification of this claim is entirely due to EE mis-communication of my rights under GC 9.6 and I should no be prevented from pursuing a claim due to EEs tactic of deliberately misleading me as to the true substance of the changes being made. For the avoidance of doubt had EE complied fully with GC 9.6 then I would have been in a position to have meet the artificial deadline EE have imposed.
  • dazz7400
    dazz7400 Posts: 33 Forumite
    [FONT=&quot]I sent my CISAS claim in twice because I didn't state the amount of compensation I would like to claim for against EE and was told to resubmit my claim.


    I returned the form claiming £100 compensation and also a penalty free cancellation of my contract.[/FONT]


    I then received an email from Poppy Baldwin.


    [FONT=&quot]Thank you for your amended application.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]We are unable to proceed at this stage as 8 weeks from your first complaint has not elapsed and you have not provided a deadlock letter from the company.[/FONT]

    You must provide clear evidence that you have been in dispute for more than 8 weeks. If you have such evidence please attach the documents by return of this email. If not, you should contact the company and complete their formal complaints procedure.

    [FONT=&quot]Kind regards[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Poppy Baldwin[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Case Administrator


    I sent my first letter to EE on/around the 17th April.

    Do I need to wait until after this date before contacting CISAS again?!

    Also.. What is this "deadlock letter from the company" she mentions?

    I'm at a loss...

    Thanks.

    [/FONT]
    RBS Overdraft - £700
    Vodafone - £509
    Orange - £516.39
    Total Due
    £1725.39
  • Preeble
    Preeble Posts: 9 Forumite
    edited 5 June 2014 at 6:33PM
    Quick update as I'm on my phone, had adudicator appointed monday, decision received this morning, claim succeeded in part! Cancellation, backdated to 14 days after first contacting ee, and pac code. No compensation for the three points raised. Was on a orange contract started oct 2013.
  • Mikmonken
    Mikmonken Posts: 374 Forumite
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    Preeble wrote: »
    Quick update as I'm on my phone, had a mr CS as adudicator appointed monday, decision received this morning, claim succeeded in part! Cancellation, backdated to 14 days after first contacting ee, and pac code. No compensation for the three points raised. Was on a orange contract started oct 2013.

    Sound like good news, I've got Mr RS but fingers crossed they all follow the same principles!!
  • delboy9
    delboy9 Posts: 14 Forumite
    edited 5 June 2014 at 11:57AM
    SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you RandomCurve :) I have just had the decision sent to me by email from CISAS stating that WE WIN!!!

    In short it says:

    1. The claim succeeds in part.

    2. I direct that the company should: provide the customer with an apology; provide the customer with his PAC; cancel the customer’s contract without penalty, backdating such cancellation to ***** 2014, thereby waiving any charges incurred after this date and; pay the customer compensation in the sum of £100.00

    RandomCurve would you like the whole of the letter copy and pasted on here for the benefit and help of others?.............

    Justine Mensa-Bonsu was my Adjudicator

    What happens next?

    Thanks again
  • muse213
    muse213 Posts: 54 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    You had your adjudicator appointed on Monday and you got your decision today? Blimey that was fast! Hopefully ulaggy and myself will get our decisions soon!
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