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Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion
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PLEASE speak to an active distributor!!!!!! There is some misunderstanding here by you. Please... If you don't speak directly to an active distributor for explanations, you will never understand it by asking questions on here.
So the only people that can talk about UW are those that sell their products and earn commission from them?
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Bluebirdman_of_Alcathays wrote: »So the only people that can talk about UW are those that sell their products and earn commission from them?
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No at all, you misunderstand! Adamc's original post was on another board and his enquiry was about becoming a distributor.
I was encouraging him to speak directly to an active distributor as the questions he wanted answered were about being a distributor and not just a customer.'The only thing that helps me keep my slender grip on reality is the friendship I have with my collection of singing potatoes'
Sleepy J.0 -
Perhaps you can answer me this: would I make the same, less or more money joining this Magic Pill 'business' as I would if I became a distributor for UW directly?
Alternatively, if I became a distributor for you, would I get the same amount of revenue per customer recruited as I would if I went to UW directly and became a distributor? Or is revenue reduced at each level of the hierarchy?
You went through UW not Magic Pill right?
Thank you for replying
Have pm'd you.'The only thing that helps me keep my slender grip on reality is the friendship I have with my collection of singing potatoes'
Sleepy J.0 -
I was a distributor with Utility Warehouse and signed up under another person. He was paid a small amount for the customers I gathered. I was also paid a small amount for the customers I gathered. These payments are a percentage of what the customer spends. Should you join the company and find others who want to earn some money, they sign up under you and then you get paid a small percentage of what their customers spend. You are being paid to gather and keep customers. It's what other companies would spend on advertising. The benefit to UW is that if you don't work, they don't have to pay you where normal advertising may never show real results.
If you join directly with UW then they will not have to pay the person who signs you up any commission on the customers you gather.
I know people who are making a really excellent living from the company but I just could not be bothered to put in the consistent effort required to build up my business. It is definitely not a get rich quick scheme, but, if you put in an hour a day or so, every day, over the course of say two years you can create an income to live on.
It is certainly not for everybody. What I will say, is that I got small commission payments for some two years and more after I stopped putting any effort in at all. Once the outgoings were more than the incomings I packed it up, but, no doubt the bloke who signed me up will still be getting a small commission on any of my customers who are still taking any services from UW.
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What outgoings?
:wall: Please read your pm. Some people on here have never been customers never mind distributors.
I'm not going to keep repeating myself. If you're happy to continue to receive incorrect and unqualified replies to your questions and enquiries on this board, carry on, it's your choice though how you expect to make any sort of informed decision is beyond me.
For the last time, if you want current accurate information you need to speak to an active distributor.'The only thing that helps me keep my slender grip on reality is the friendship I have with my collection of singing potatoes'
Sleepy J.0 -
Ok, I've done a heck of a lot of research on UW and this is what I've come up with based on commission information found online and by looking at their financial statements/balance sheet as found freely available on their site. I've tried to make this as objective as possible.
To become a distributor you pay a sign up fee, currently £100 it seems. You then also pay a monthly membership fee of I believe around £4 so you'll be paying around £48 a year to be a distributor.
Potential earnings - you can earn up to 6% on your customers bills. But bear in mind that the biggest bills will be for energy for which you'll earn more like 2% and the customers have to be"qualifying customers" which means they must be taking 4 or more services. I'm not sure if you get any commission if they only take energy or if you get a much reduced commission. I have a feeling you get none.
You will not receive any commission at all until you have 3 personal customers which isn't as easy as it sounds unless you know thousands of people or are extremely good at selling. Once you have 3 customers you must get 1 additional customer each month to get commission on any of them and this will continue until you have 20 or 50 customers (I can't remember which) at which point you will not have to introduce the monthly customer.
With regards downline, you do not earn a % but a pence per service which I believe is up to 0.16p per service maximum. This reduces the further down the downline you go.
You are able to earn good bonuses in various ways, but these are mostly related to how quickly you get customers e.g. get 12 customers in your first 90 days and get your sign up money back (this is an example and not a real bonus, you can get your money back by signing up customers in a certain amount of time but I don't know how many customers and what time scale) or how many distributors you recruit.
Earnings are capped, it's a reasonable cap I think £20,000 pa for the lowest level, after which you must have a certain number of personal customers, group customers, and also distributors at varying levels (eg. Qualified distributor, team leader, senior team leader etc).
The average earnings when you take the declared commission payout and the declared distributor numbers is roughly £500 per distributor per year. Once you take into account the distributors that earn the really big bucks, the money shared out with the rest reduces. It's something like £18 million paid out to 36,000 distributors.
In conclusion, you CAN earn money with utility warehouse if you are good at selling BUT do not expect to earn the kind of figures that people may tell you you will. This will not allow you to retire in 5 years on it's income alone. You may get a few hundred quid a month extra if you're good. There are people earning very good money with UW but as with all network marketing systems, those people are the ones that came in at the beginning.
P.S. I am not a distributor nor have I ever been. I knew someone who was and their involvement made me what to know what the deal was. All this information was found out via their website or through online searches.
P.P.S. I apologise if any of this information is wrong/out of date. Please correct me where I am wrong. As I am not a distributor I do not have access to up to date info and most UW distributors won't disclose info.0 -
What outgoings?
Once I stopped working at the business, customers slowly drifted away when they found other providers they were happier with. As I said, it took a couple of years before the payments would not cover the web site cost and I then gave up my "distributorship."The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
Oliver Wendell Holmes0 -
Upkeep of your company web site and any advertising materials you use. One used to get some with the joining pack and then pay for what was required after that ran out. I also tried advertising in local papers and covered these costs with new customer commissions.
Once I stopped working at the business, customers slowly drifted away when they found other providers they were happier with. As I said, it took a couple of years before the payments would not cover the web site cost and I then gave up my "distributorship."
Current info is that brochures and paper applications used for signing customers are replaced to you FOC by the company. After your first year, there is a small monthly admin fee (£3 for active distributors and £4 for inactive distributors). There are loads of company approved ads that are available to download and print off.'The only thing that helps me keep my slender grip on reality is the friendship I have with my collection of singing potatoes'
Sleepy J.0 -
.....brochures and paper applications used for signing customers are replaced to you FOC by the company. After your first year, there is a small monthly admin fee (£3 for active distributors and £4 for inactive distributors).......
Looks like inactive distributors get "fined" £4/month then for daring to stop recruiting (as presumably they see no benefit from the £4, compared with the £3 active reps pay to get "FOC" brochures and sign up forms)0
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