weight loss

Eric_Pisch · 14 May 2011 at 10:52PM

j-josie wrote: »

Hello. Never been on the 'I wanna..' thread before so feeling a bit lost. I posted the following on the Familys etc thread and was recommended to post here instead. No idea how to move a thread so have re-posted my original message...
Here goes:
"Hi there,
I have been getting nowhere with trying to lose some weight. I lost a stone last year (then put it on again) so feel I can do it, once I have properly put my mind to it...but food is a definite emotional crutch for me (plus I just really, really like chocolate )

Anyway, the point of this thread is that I have just bought some Lipobind dieting tablets, as I thought it just might give me the kick start I need. I have taken 2 tablets after my main meal but was wondering, do I have to take them after breakfast and lunch too? Breakfast will be shredded wheat or rice krispies, lunch will be sandwich (dry bread, wafer thin ham, tomato) and probably Special K bar or similar.
The leaflet didn't give that much detail, and I'm wondering if you only use it after main meals which are probably the ones containing most fat?
In true MSE style, hoping to make the one pack of tablets last a long time

And if anyone has had any experience of using LipoBind, I'd love to hear how you did."

welcome

i dont use them I am afraid and I am not a fan since fat is an important nutrient in being healthy and loosing weight, and no one here currently has mentioned using them (and spankings for you if you have !!)

what we do know is that high levels of insulin block fat burning and force the body to store as much energy as fat as it can as well so a diet with fast releasing processed carbs is the worst thing you can do if you want to loose weight such as pretty much everything your eating there i am afraid

i would recommend eating natural slow release carbs (veg, salad a little fruit) with protein (its an appetite suppressant) and some fats, dont buy into the low fat myth, its not natural or healthy for us, we spent the best part of 2.5 million years with 60% of our energy coming from fat, nature knows what its doing, even saturated fat is not bad for us.

as for choccy, some of the better high coco content choccy wont do you much harm such as green and blacks 75% especially if eaten with a meal to reduces the impact of the sugar in it

just remember this mantra, fat does not make me fat, sugar makes me fat

j-josie · 14 May 2011 at 11:05PM

Eric: D'oh, this is so not what I wanted to hear, lol

(and i can't really get any solace from you allowing some chocolate as I'm not at all fussed on the high coco content - creamy Galaxy choc is my favourite...)
I'm doomed:rotfl:

Eric_Pisch · 14 May 2011 at 11:27PM

j-josie wrote: »

Eric: D'oh, this is so not what I wanted to hear, lol
(and i can't really get any solace from you allowing some chocolate as I'm not at all fussed on the high coco content - creamy Galaxy choc is my favourite...)
I'm doomed:rotfl:

it will be the sugar you crave not the choc, most of the normal choccy bars are normally well over 50% sugar

sugar addiction can be broken, takes a couple of weeks of willpower but once gone life gets a lot easier

CheeseCat · 14 May 2011 at 11:43PM

So I'll be okay putting a square of 75% cocoa chocolate in my porridge again? :j

I'm dieting too - my main problem is snacking in the evening as I can be really good during the day and then cave into toast/sandwich/etc when dinners been digested.

Can I join the thread or am I too late?

Eric_Pisch · 14 May 2011 at 11:53PM

CheeseCat wrote: »

So I'll be okay putting a square of 75% cocoa chocolate in my porridge again? :j

I'm dieting too - my main problem is snacking in the evening as I can be really good during the day and then cave into toast/sandwich/etc when dinners been digested.

Can I join the thread or am I too late?

everyone is welcome :beer:

i could never work out why i was craving carby food after eating a massive meal, i know why now thou

oh and for putting on food try willies wonky chocolate, 0% sugar, amazing taste

http://www.waitrose.com/home/inspiration/About_our_product_ranges/food/chocolate.html

CheeseCat · 15 May 2011 at 12:04AM

Why did you crave carby food after a big meal? I'd love to solve that one!

Willies Wonky chocolate

sounds good - is it only in Waitrose? I will have to hunt one down.

I wanted to join before but I was afraid I wouldn't get anywhere. I lost 3lb this week though (so I know i'm finally getting serious) and it would be nice to have like-minded people to talk to

lolly101 · 15 May 2011 at 12:43AM

Josie - I've never tried them, and agree with Eric, but I would say that you would probably be best just using them with meals that have a certain amount of fat in them. Don't bother for breakfast if you have cereal each day, as cereals contain nothing but sugar (some are up to 30% sugar :eek:), just take them with lunch and dinner, depending on what you are eating.

Welcome CheeseCat! :hello:
... and congratulations on the loss this week! :beer:

j-josie · 15 May 2011 at 5:51AM

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

it will be the sugar you crave not the choc, most of the normal choccy bars are normally well over 50% sugar

sugar addiction can be broken, takes a couple of weeks of willpower but once gone life gets a lot easier

You're right Eric, I know once I have broken my bad habits it will be easier. I can be good all day, then succumb in an almighty way when I get in from work. That's the area I need to work on.

Eric_Pisch · 15 May 2011 at 8:20AM

CheeseCat wrote: »

Why did you crave carby food after a big meal? I'd love to solve that one!

i believe it works like this, you eat a lot of carbs, you get high insulin levels to deal with it, your body sends out a message eat carbs to help reduce insulin, so you feel a need to eat more even thou you have just eaten plenty of food

margaretclare · 15 May 2011 at 9:49AM

j-josie wrote: »

Hello. Never been on the 'I wanna..' thread before so feeling a bit lost. I posted the following on the Familys etc thread and was recommended to post here instead. No idea how to move a thread so have re-posted my original message...
Here goes:
"Hi there,
I have been getting nowhere with trying to lose some weight. I lost a stone last year (then put it on again) so feel I can do it, once I have properly put my mind to it...but food is a definite emotional crutch for me (plus I just really, really like chocolate )

Anyway, the point of this thread is that I have just bought some Lipobind dieting tablets, as I thought it just might give me the kick start I need. I have taken 2 tablets after my main meal but was wondering, do I have to take them after breakfast and lunch too? Breakfast will be shredded wheat or rice krispies, lunch will be sandwich (dry bread, wafer thin ham, tomato) and probably Special K bar or similar.
The leaflet didn't give that much detail, and I'm wondering if you only use it after main meals which are probably the ones containing most fat?
In true MSE style, hoping to make the one pack of tablets last a long time

And if anyone has had any experience of using LipoBind, I'd love to hear how you did."

I have no experience of Lipobind, but here's my guess:

Some while ago my DH went to his GP and asked for help in losing weight. He's an insulin-using Type 2 diabetic from way way back, so as Eric says, insulin encourages the storage of fat. The only thing that could be prescribed was Xenical, also called Orlistat. I believe that it's possible to buy another version of this but at half the dosage, and that's possibly what you're talking about, similar to the one marketed as Alli. Xenical had an absolutely disastrous effect on him. Basically, any fat you take in as food goes straight out again by...the usual route. This was embarrassing, inconvenient, anti-social and smelly. He stopped taking them pretty damn quick.

Looking at what you eat I would surmise that you're not having enough protein. From experience, I have junked practically all the so-called 'breakfast cereals' because even those trumpeted as 'slimming' e.g. Special K are loaded with sugar. They do not keep you going throughout a busy morning, so you're hungry and need to snack by mid-morning. The only thing that will hold you down for longer is porridge made in the traditional way. Nowadays I have an egg in some form for breakfast along with a slice of wholemeal toast. Rice krispies are useless and are full of sugar. Special K bars - again. You don't seem to be having any fruit. You'd be better off with a banana than Special K bar! At least a banana grows on a tree and hasn't come from a factory. All those processed foods are not going to do you a darned bit of good in the long term.

PS: http://www.fitness2k.com/lipobind

HTH

weight loss

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