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I've been thinking more about this, but still got nowhere, but thought that I would air my thoughts, so that it might make someone else think of something. Firstly, since they have used Google Street View a few times, I had a mooch around the area on Google Street view, hoping that perhaps there might be a law court or something (The truth?). That got me nowhere, so then I thought that since they use anagrams quite a lot, we might be looking for a two (or more?) word anagram of "Fish Scale Pattern", the second word of the anagram being the nine letter word that is at the start of the answer. Once again though, I have got nowhere with finding a suitable anagram.0
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With their like of maps, I've been trying to find what Woking Prison was replaced with. According to this blog:
http://wokingprison.blogspot.com/
It was on what is now Raglan Road, Woking.
But no truth/golf connections nearby (that I can find)Aug 2009 - £50 McVities Comp
Aug 2010 - iPod Shuffle (Scotch tape comp) + Bangzo.com book (Carol Vorderman's detox)
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Well I think I have something on that last bit. - BTW, thanks for all the help, I don't think I would have made it this far.
Did Henry go starving while clearing bent grass?
Buy hall and you'll see above cellar your task.
Match she without T find where hat home did make,
Crustacean will show you the one with no steak.
Now where he joined Phil you remember your youth,
The pattern from inmates will lead to the truth.
Word two you must find then flog the wrong way,
Go homeward with hope and that's all for today.We started in Hungry Bently, Derbyshire and then moved to Chesham, Bethnal Green and Woking (all in the SE).
If going homeward means going back to Derbyshire, AND flog the wrong way is indeed golf, then we could be looking at something to do with...
Blue Circle (Hope) Golf Course
Blue Circle Golf Club, Cement Works, Hope, S33 2RP.
Doesn't help with the second word, but the Hope valley is in Derbyshire, albeit North of Hungry Bently
Google map showing Hungry Bently, Chesham, Bethnal Green, Woking and Hope (rough locations)
maps . google . co . uk /maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=52.22107,-0.565796&spn=1.605176,4.938354&z=8
And rather than change the text colour, why not use [ spoiler ] & [ /spoiler ] tags instead. If people are using custom style sheets, the white text may not always be invisible until highlighted, but spoilers always are.Not as green as I am cabbage looking0 -
And rather than change the text colour, why not use [ spoiler ] & [ /spoiler ] tags instead. If people are using custom style sheets, the white text may not always be invisible until highlighted, but spoilers always are.
Thanks for posting. I for one am not a very techie person, so the reason that I would not use spoilers is because I don't understand them. LOL. Perhaps others might be like me.0 -
Thanks for that, I didn't know about spoiler tags, I knew white wasn't ideal
It's a shame your golf club name doesn't fit in. I wonder if you're right about homeward, but I don't think we'll know for sure where we're going until the word two line is solved. I remembered there was a previous clue which used the phrase on 'with hope' and it turned out it was just a filler, when I thought I would be trying to add something to hope to get a place name or surname. (eta - it was in March). It makes me think the whole last line might mainly be a filler to end the rhyme, particularly as golf club fits into the solution.
I haven't given up but I'm going a bit doolally and I feel like I've tried everything.
If 'leads to the truth' is just a filler then I think word two is either be scale/s, gaol/jail, prison or invalids (from the full name of the prison).
I've looked for placenames or streets called scale/s and found nowhere near a golf course.
If 'lead to the truth' is part of the clue, then I wonder if word two might refer to a word in a poem or book, which has been done before in their clues. I haven't found any poems on fish scales or Woking prison though!
I did find that Charles Joseph Kickham wrote a book called Sally Cavanagh in Woking prison but I got nothing with either Cavanagh or the second word of the book, Purcell. I also don't think the book fits into 'lead to the truth'.
I also found that the female inmates of Woking Prison did the mosaic floor in the crypt of St Paul's where several famous people are buried, but I couldn't see anything obvious that relates to the clue.
I've googled lots of combinations of fishscales or woking + truth (and synonyms) and got nothing0 -
If 'leads to the truth' is just a filler then I think word two is either be scale/s, gaol/jail, prison or invalids (from the full name of the prison).
If we are supposed to be heading back towards Derbyshire, where we started at Hungry Bentley, it is interesting to see that Darwin's grandfather died at Breadsall Priory in Derby. Breadsall priory is now the site of a hotel - and a golf club .
Breadsall also matches neatly with Hungry Bentley (????)
*sorry, I had links but they show up when main text is white
-“Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty.” - John Kennedy Toole, A Confederacy of Dunces0 -
Thanks for posting. I for one am not a very techie person, so the reason that I would not use spoilers is because I don't understand them. LOL. Perhaps others might be like me.
Thats all right, i was only trying to help. For those using the font colour option from the toolbar may not realise the forum code, but for those who type [ color=white ] & [ /color ] chamging to [ spoiler ] is minor.
For those who are unsure, if you type [ s p o i l e r ] and [ / s p o i l e r ] (minus the spaces) around the text you want to hide you getSomething like this
now back to the drawing board with this puzzle.Not as green as I am cabbage looking0 -
Mrs_Overall wrote: »'Fish scale' pattern leads to the truth... Perhaps meant in the sense of the Christian emblem(*), which has been adapted by anti-evolutionists to show the Ichthys eating the Darwin fish.
If we are supposed to be heading back towards Derbyshire, where we started at Hungry Bentley, it is interesting to see that Darwin's grandfather died at Breadsall Priory in Derby. Breadsall priory is now the site of a hotel - and a golf club .
Breadsall also matches neatly with Hungry Bentley (????)
*sorry, I had links but they show up when main text is white
The Ichthys represents
- Iota (i) is the first letter of Iēsous (Ἰησοῦς), Greek for "Jesus".
- Chi (ch) is the first letter of Christos (Χριστὸς), Greek for "anointed".
- Theta (th) is the first letter of Theou (Θεοῦ), Greek for "God's", the genitive case of Θε!ς, Theos, Greek for "God".
- Upsilon (y) is the first letter of yios (Υἱὸς), Greek for "Son".
- Sigma (s) is the first letter of sōtēr (Σωτήρ), Greek for "Savior".
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Going back to the fish scalesThe museum building succeeded in being educational from the onset. Female inmates of Woking Gaol laid the fish scale pattern marble floor (visitors to the Museum will notice that sme worked more diligently than others!) and F. W. Moody designed the murals in the north and south exterior walls as educational pieces. The murals on the south wall depict agricultural scenes whilst those on the north depict art and industry. The murals, following the style of those in the main quadrangle at the South Kensington site, were created with the assistance of female students of the South Kensington Museum Mosaic Class.
I've highlighted a few words there, going back to homward leading North, then maybe there is something in those muriels.Not as green as I am cabbage looking0
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