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cistolic

How about Wentworth Golf Club Not a clue how to fit it in with clues but someone might.

There was a Henry Thomas Hope, a Surrey Magistrate who owned Hope Castle in Castle Blaney, Ireland 1830. Maybe usless info but just trying to find links

bargainhuntergal

I've been thinking again I'm not sure if the whole line before, the 'THE PATTERN FROM INMATES WILL LEAD TO THE TRUTH.' is completed

We've got the fish scale pattern and inmates from Woking Gaol, but I'm wondering if there's something in the 'WILL LEAD TO THE TRUTH' section that is stopping us from getting the next part. Could lead, rather than mean lead, like lead someone away, mean lead as in the metal? I'm looking to see if the inmates also did any lead work or something like that!

I had wondered with the 'WORD TWO YOU MUST FIND AND THEN FLOG THE WRONG WAY,' whether we should be looking for alternative words for find and flog and put them the other way around to make another word?

Will keep trying!!

Cmdr_Bond

Marg2k8 wrote: »

Well, if Cmdr_Bond is right about the link to St Andrews, then it might be worth noting that there is a Hope church in St Andrews.

www. hopeparkchurch.co.uk (not that this fits in with the solution of words of nine, four and four)

Cheers for that, I stumbled on that just before I succumbed to the Wife's nagging and went to bed, so as yet I haven't had time to do any research with the link.

We just need somthing to connect the Truth to St. Andrews before we can take St. Andrews as gospel (pardon the pun)

reniannen

Cmdr_Bond wrote: »

Cheers for that, I stumbled on that just before I succumbed to the Wife's nagging and went to bed, so as yet I haven't had time to do any research with the link.

We just need somthing to connect the Truth to St. Andrews before we can take St. Andrews as gospel (pardon the pun)

I did connect the truth to St Andrews but I think it got lost! Post #45

reniannen wrote: »

ahh just thought, the tomb says Arthur Duke of Wellington

googling Duke + golf gets me to the home of golf here -

http://oldcoursehotel.kohler.com/golf/dukes_landing.html

not finding anything that fits into the letters though

So the Woking women did the mosaics in the crypt of St Pauls's -> Wellington's monument there has a statue of Truth on it -> the second word of his tomb is Duke -> there is a Duke's golf course at St Andrews, the home of golf -> ... then what fits into the letters lol

I don't know why but I'm not completely convinced we're on the right track, feel like I'm hammering in a jigsaw piece that almost fits but not quite.

Marg2k8

reniannen wrote: »

I don't know why but I'm not completely convinced we're on the right track, feel like I'm hammering in a jigsaw piece that almost fits but not quite.

I agree with you. It seems too contrived somehow. I think that we must all be missing something obvious somehow. The last one, once you had got there, you knew that you had got there - there was no niggling doubt.

bargainhuntergal

Just thinking aloud more than anything...

Could 'word two' mean the second word on the same side of the monument? Falsehood?

Edit: I've just realised Cmdr_Bond mentioned this earlier on! Doh!!

crin

reniannen wrote: »

The women of Woking prison also did the mosaic floor of the Cast Courts / Architectural Courts at the V&A

http://www.vam.ac.uk/collections/sculpture/sculpture_features/cast_collection/cast_courts_masterpiece/index.html

can't find anything for a Courts golf club and there doesn't appear to have been anything written on the floor it was just geometric.

Also found that the mosaics were called 'opus criminale' - don't think that leads anywhere in itself but might be a good google keyword

Could courts maybe refer to Henry the 8th? Hoebridge golf place is built very very close to Henry's palace in Old Woking. It isn't very far from Raglan Road where the women's prison & the other prison used to be (I live on the estate and there are still underground cells).

Also, this article here: http://www.housesinwoking.com/Webpage/126/Hook-Heath
mentions that a leading suffragette lived in Hook Heath who ended up in prison with emmeline pankhurst. It also mentions that there were 2 prisons & the area became known as the home of the mad, bad, and something else.

bargainhuntergal

Been looking again

Could the link to St Paul's Cathedral be anything to do with Christopher Wren? I know it's a long shot, but I found a piece of text on him, his family and times that also mentions Woking's convicts doing the floor here

It's probably not got anything to do with it, but I'm getting desperate for a breakthrough here! :rotfl:

If we go back to the Golf Club theory, there's a list of all the golf clubs on this site here

I've had a very quick scout, but will have a better look later on. (I left all of the boxes blank and changed the Country, I also put the search by Club Name)

Cmdr_Bond

reniannen wrote: »

I did connect the truth to St Andrews but I think it got lost! Post #45



So the Woking women did the mosaics in the crypt of St Pauls's -> Wellington's monument there has a statue of Truth on it -> the second word of his tomb is Duke -> there is a Duke's golf course at St Andrews, the home of golf -> ... then what fits into the letters lol

I don't know why but I'm not completely convinced we're on the right track, feel like I'm hammering in a jigsaw piece that almost fits but not quite.

I know, it is all very tenuous, and we may be missing the wood for the trees, but I think St. Andrews could be the answer. Two parts of the clue kind of point in that direction (the Dukes, and Backwards Golf).

So for the time being, that is where I am concentrating my efforts.

Still stuck though.

Cmdr_Bond

OK, backtracking slightly. I am struggling with St. Andrews so I am trying to look again at the previous clues.

Does word two you must find mean we must use the second word from something, like duke? Or does it mean the second word is hidden, like a cryptic crossword clue where one word is hidden inside another or spans the back and front parts of two separate words? Or does it mean we are looking for the second word of the answer, which is what I (and I think a few others) originally concluded it to be.

*watches as brain dribbles out of left nostril*