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"pay As You Go" Car Insurance (norwich Union)

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  • QQuaver
    QQuaver Posts: 8,444 Forumite
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    There's problem with my car since they've fitted the device:mad:

    Every now and again, it hoots like an owl. It sometimes happens when I start the car, or about to park the car, or like now, can hear it from inside the garage. The car's been in the garage for 2 hrs, and it started hooting. It lasts for about 10 seconds, and it stops.

    I'll look inside the car tomorrow to see what's causing it. It's not the car horn, it's softer. Not the car alarm, it's disconnected, and besides the sound is completely different.

    Anyone else having similar sounds?
    I think the GPS is trying to tell us the battery is running low...
  • hansi
    hansi Posts: 3,001 Forumite
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    I would contact NU asap!
  • QQuaver
    QQuaver Posts: 8,444 Forumite
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    hansi wrote: »
    I would contact NU asap!
    :(
    I think it may be the sound of my car phoning NU...
    I'll check tonight at 10 to see if it does it again, and then contact them.
  • beccus wrote: »
    Its really interesting to see what people think about PAYD, please keep posting your thoughts here so I can pass them onto my colleagues.

    Becca

    Can you advise on the following.

    Just over a week ago, a friend applied to Norwich Union for car insurance and was quoted for only the regular car insurance policy. By chance, she rang in again and was told by the Customer Service Rep that with the miles my friend said she drives in a year the PAYD policy would be cheaper.

    This seems strange. Is this how it should work?

    Is it the customer's own responsibility to know which car insurance policies NU sells and which specific one suits them best?

    Is it NU's policy to sell the customer a policy with a higher premium than necessary if it seems the customer will not be looking elsewhere for quotations?

    Although my friend converted to the PAYD policy she was now in a position where she did not really know if the second CSR was right in the way she had calculated the premium cost because my friend had already learnt that one Norwich Union CSR was never going to receive her trust again when it came to advice on how best to save money when purchasing NU car insurance.

    The first CSR had already arranged for the paperwork to be sent out, so an extra set of papers with a change of policy were issued.

    I will for now ignore the errors in the paperwork which in themselves have caused separate and continuing problems. I will only mention that the start time was different to what was requested, surnames were misspelt, the place the car was parked mysteriously changed, etc. When the corrections were applied by Norwich Union they were themselves incorrect and before long there were masses of unexpected seemingly duplicate paperwork arriving which all needed checking to see that it was in fact genuinely duplicate. All this in less than 10 days!

    I should add that my friend is a very clear speaker and stated her personal details unambiguously. She is patient, un-argumentative and, in general, she is a model customer.

    Now that she was facing the unnecessary administration, my friend decided not to ask any more about the PAYD compared to the standard policy. It was getting to be too much. However she did want to know what excess she should specify on the to-be-corrected paperwork. A quick call to the helpline was indeed quick because this time the helpline person didn't know much about how the premium changed according to what excess was applied. Indeed, my friend was told she should have asked the sales people. Well, she would certainly have done so if she knew there was going to be some jiggery pokery with the excess but at the time she was too trusting in NU's processes. In fairness the first CSR had given her clear information about these figures which my friend wrote down but unfortunately the errors which led to an incorrect premium, now made these written figures incorrect. She never got an answer to her query.

    All in all PAYD may be a good policy but my friend will be thinking twice if she deals with NU again when the policy is up for renewal as she is usually extremely busy and does not have a lot of time to spare on this sort of protracted admin. Anyone else who values their time may want to think how much value they put on several hours of their time spent dealing with NU to correct errors and see if the cost they put on that does not make alternatives seem more attractive than they would otherwise have been.

    My friend would make a complaint to Norwich Union but, as she has already seen how the company's admin works, she is reluctant to get mired in a complaints system with yet more misunderstandings, incorrect paperwork, poor investigation and all that sort of thing which she has already experienced. Her personal time is far too precious for all that. Needless to say all this has caused her quite considerable distress.

    Why can't she ring in, give all her details, get a quote and take out insurance. Dozens of car insurers can manage to do this so what is so hard about it for Norwich Union to give my friend a similar standard of service?

    Becca, are you able to offer any comments on what my friend has experienced? Of course, it's no consolation to be told that this is rare or not because it is the actual one-and-only experience my friend had.

    Dogruler
  • Hi Dogruler
    Firstly I'm sorry that your friend has had so many problems and your right it is no consolation to be told this is rare, what I hope will help is if I tell you I'd like to get this investigated and find out where it went wrong for your friend. This should not happen and we need to be able investigate exactly what is happening.

    If you'd like me to investigate further please feel free to send some details to my work email address ([EMAIL="rebecca.sibley@norwich-union.co.uk"]rebecca.sibley@norwich-union.co.uk[/EMAIL]) with policy number and I'll get onto this asap.

    Becca
  • QQuaver
    QQuaver Posts: 8,444 Forumite
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    I've been with NU for more than 10 years now, they do make mistakes, and each time it's corrected, they'll send out paperwork. It won't happen if you do it online though.
    PAYD seems to be slightly different product, so I can understand why they won't offer them unless specifically asked.
  • QQuaver wrote: »
    I've been with NU for more than 10 years now, they do make mistakes, and each time it's corrected, they'll send out paperwork. It won't happen if you do it online though.
    PAYD seems to be slightly different product, so I can understand why they won't offer them unless specifically asked.

    Oddly enough, my friend had also been with Norwich Union some years ago although not for anything like as long as your 10 years!

    I would be inclined to think that once you're a customer then the renew paperwork is much more straightforward so really we should compare the occasion you first took out your existing policy with her current experience of taking out a new policy.

    As this weird set of events unfolded, I lost count of the exact number of policies my friend received although she could tell you. I think I'm right in saying she received four full sets of paperwork although it may only have been three.

    It was more than enough for someone as busy as she is who does not really want to spend time carefully checking all these documents for their similarity with what has already been sent! READ CAREFULLY the paperwork says (or words to that effect). If only the senders at Norwich Union had been as careful reading their own procedures as the paperwork which they sent out advised my friend to be, then it wouldn't have been necessary for her to do all the additional careful reading.

    She had diligently read each set of documents as they came in (I told you she is a model customer) until the numbers of documents arriving just made her almost explode in disbelief at the bombardment. I feel it was so unnecessary to make her distressed with all that mass of detail.

    dogruler
  • beccus wrote: »
    If you'd like me to investigate further please feel free to send some details to my work email address ([EMAIL="rebecca.sibley@norwich-union.co.uk"]rebecca.sibley@norwich-union.co.uk[/EMAIL]) with policy number and I'll get onto this asap.Becca
    Well done Becca!
    I have never been a big fan of Norwich Union, or for that matter these big global companies with overseas call centres and the infuriating 0845/0870 numbers, but this posting has just renewed my faith in NU.
    Oh, and by the way, I am seriously looking at PAYD when my insurance is due to renew next year and if it does truly save you money I will recommend it to all of my neighbours who are in a similar situation to me; retired, live in a town centre, got a bus pass and hardly ever have to use the car to drive anywhere.
  • Thanks VB!
    We know that there are times when we don't get it right, but we're doing our best to fix the problems where we can, so this kind of feedback is vital to our customer experience.

    I'd love to know how you get on with PAYD.
    All the best
    Becca

    PS - dogruler, my offer is still there if you want me to investigate.
  • I have been trying to get a PAYD quote but when I enter the registration it says the car is a turbo, which it is not. This would have quite a difference in quote as the normal engine is group 11 and the turbo group 14. How do I get a quote for the correct model?
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