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A Tenant's guide to renting

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  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    1. Was a signed inventory in place at the start of your tenancy?

    2. Was there a check out inventory done?

    3. Are you in E/Wales and did you pay your tenancy deposit after 6 April 2007?

    4. If yes, has the LL scheme-registered the deposit and given you the prescribed info on the scheme, as required by law?

    5. Has the LL given you a written breakdown of what his/her proposed deductions cover?

    6. Are any of the deductions justified in your opinion ?( given that you can only be asked to return a property in the same condition as originally let, save for fair wear and tear)
  • JoeA81
    JoeA81 Posts: 266 Forumite
    I find if they know you've been through the hell of repossession by proxy then (good) landlords are usually only too happy to offer proof of their permission to let. If you are lucky enough to have avoided it then why not state that a 'friend' (they don't have to know you are talking about an online acquaintance ;)) had problems with a dodgy landlord and you weren't previously aware of this issue and would they mind providing proof for your peace of mind?

    That is good advice, I will include that little gold nugget in the OP!
    Don't pay off your student loan quicker than you have to.
  • JoeA81
    JoeA81 Posts: 266 Forumite
    edited 16 April 2013 at 11:02AM


    > I've never rented before - Please explain!

    The two main routes to renting are:
    1. Through a letting agency who manages property on behalf of landlords.
    2. Through a private landlord who manages their own property.
    *This is slightly complicated by the fact that some landlords use letting agencies to help them find a tenant, but then manage the tenancy themselves. The main differences in the letting experience arise through who is managing the property.

    Letting Agencies
    Letting agencies sell themselves to potential tenants by saying that they will be able to "do all the legwork" of looking for a property because they represent a large number of landlords and have many properties on their books (obviously this does depend on the size of the agency). They also present themselves as professionals who will deal with all aspects of the tenancy promptly and efficiently - they suggest they can be better at these things than a single private landlord.

    It is generally much more expensive to rent through a letting agency because they tent to charge "fees" for just about everything - credit checks, drawing up the contract, inventory checks, admin fees etc. Some letting agencies also regularly inspect the properties they manage, as often as every six weeks.

    In conclusion, renting through a letting agent who manages the property is very much bound up with rules and regulations. This is the reality of a big commercial company running tenancies - they need to make absolutely sure that they make as much money as possible, and so introduce as many rules as possible to minimise any losses that may occur. The regulations mean that both the agency and the tenant generally know exactly where they stand in any given situation. But for the tenant, the rules can sometimes be unnecessarily restrictive and inflexible - and often expensive.

    Private Landlords
    Private landlords generally sit somewhere on a scale going from "professional landlords" at one end, who own a number of rental properties and whose business is letting out property, to "reluctant landlords" at the other end, who own a single rental property and are being forced to rent it out for any number of reasons - including not being able to sell the house and having to move away (as you can imagine, the credit crunch has seen a rise in this type of landlord!)

    Private landlords can be more flexible on the rules of your tenancy, so if you have a pets, children, or other special circumstances then often private landlord can be more accommodating than letting agencies with strict rules. There are often less fees involved too, as many landlords are satisfied with looking through bank statements or having a quick chat with your employer to confirm your income rather than running a credit check. They also take references from previous landlords very seriously, and a good reference can be enough to secure you a tenancy. As landlords generally have fewer properties to manage than a letting agency, you can foster a real relationship with them which can make things easier throughout the tenancy, and allow a certain degree of "give and take".

    Due to the scale on which landlord can sit, some "reluctant landlords" can be very unfamiliar with current legislation, and not take their responsibilities as a landlord seriously, causing problems for the tenant when things go wrong.

    In conclusion, renting through a private landlord can be a more liberating experience than using a letting agency, with less petty rules and regulations and more room for flexibility. However not all landlords are created equal, and the ones who do not take the duties of being a landlord seriously can cause a major headache for their tenants.

    The reality is that like most things in life, there are good and bad letting agencies and good and bad private landlords. The rest of this guide will try and help you identify the good from the bad.
    Don't pay off your student loan quicker than you have to.
  • teaspoon1
    teaspoon1 Posts: 295 Forumite
    Hello! We are moving out soon and just wondering how fussy LLs are re wear and tear. We intend to fully clean the place (inc carpets), however there are one or two marks on the walls. Should we paint over these/attempt to clean them? Also, there is mould on the bathroom ceiling which they are aware of, we are sure that it's due to damp (we ventilate the bathroom almost 24/7 - we asked them to install an extractor fan but they refused).

    Also, the carpets are not going to be perfect as the LL has had contractors (and themselves) in and out throughout our tenancy. The front door does not leave room for a mat to wipe our feet on and we have been as careful as we could, but the hall carpet is pretty grubby. The carpet itself looks about 10 years old at least. What do you advise?
  • Hi Everyone, i really need some help. Im looking to rent my first apartment with my boyfriend around October, Got a few things i am unsure about, I am working as an Administrator and im not takin home much money every month at the minute (i will ask about it soon) my income is only 10,000 a year and my boyfriend is self-employed earning around 30,000. Ive heard you need proof of income..is this right? As my boyfriend will not being getting a wage slip at the end of every month how do i get round the proof of income?? ...Also will i need guarantors? Im worrrying about all of it...i dnt know if we can afford to have our own place or not. :( All the posts on here are great and have really helped! Thanks
  • teaspoon1 wrote: »
    Hello! We are moving out soon and just wondering how fussy LLs are re wear and tear. We intend to fully clean the place (inc carpets), however there are one or two marks on the walls. Should we paint over these/attempt to clean them? Also, there is mould on the bathroom ceiling which they are aware of, we are sure that it's due to damp (we ventilate the bathroom almost 24/7 - we asked them to install an extractor fan but they refused).

    Also, the carpets are not going to be perfect as the LL has had contractors (and themselves) in and out throughout our tenancy. The front door does not leave room for a mat to wipe our feet on and we have been as careful as we could, but the hall carpet is pretty grubby. The carpet itself looks about 10 years old at least. What do you advise?

    Different landlords have differing degrees of reasonableness when it comes to these things. They should allow for natural wear & tear caused by you using the property and, if damage has been caused by contractors they sent in, you should make sure they know this.

    The differing degrees of interpretation of 'wear and tear' are, in part, the reason why the Tenancy Deposit Scheme was set up and includes help in sorting out disputes.

    Matt
  • gribbo2001
    gribbo2001 Posts: 11 Forumite
    Wash off marks on walls with sugarsoap or that new JML sponge - works very well!
    Steam the carpets professionally
    Deep clean the kitchen and bathroom
    Get the windows cleaned - not always totally necessary but a good way of selling yourself re your deposit return for the sake of £15
    Take final meter readings and really chase the utility companies to get final bills - sooner you get these sooner you get the deposit back!
  • moneymouth77
    moneymouth77 Posts: 225 Forumite
    I've always rented, and always had the policy of hiring a professional cleaning company to do a one-over a couple of days before moving out. It normally costs about £50-£100, but for that you're completely worry free!
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  • If you have a couple of days to move in rather than just one day it's often easier to get everything out and into the new property then go back to clean. Not the most fun you can have but makes life easier!

    Matt
  • techmax76
    techmax76 Posts: 120 Forumite
    Before buying a house it is very important that you have seen the property you are buying and that you meet the property owner whom you are going to buy. Be sure to read and understand the foregoing contract of policies you are signing in. Because there are many scams or frauds who will take the opportunity to sell fake properties.
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