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    • Prinzessilein
    • By Prinzessilein 22nd Jan 17, 1:56 PM
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    My time has finally come......
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    • 22nd Jan 17, 1:56 PM
    My time has finally come...... 22nd Jan 17 at 1:56 PM
    Yesterday I got 'the letter'.....My DLA will be stopped next month, and I am invited to apply for PIPs.

    Tomorrow we will make the phonecall...and then the form will be sent....possibly (probably) a face-to-face (including the usual fight to get the face-to-face done at home).

    I know that I am entitled to PIP. I have been on an 'indefinite' award for DLA for some years (Lower Rate for both components) and am aware that my care needs have increased.

    I have done one of those on-line self-assessments just for interest, and it looks like I should be well into the 'enhanced' section for care and 'standard' for mobility.

    I have been down this road a few times with DLA (and similar path for ESA) why am I so nervous?

    Why is it that the government has produced a system that leaves genuine claimants quaking in their shoes and distrustful that they will have a fair hearing?
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    • Prinzessilein
    • By Prinzessilein 10th Jun 17, 9:53 AM
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    ...and the decision letter has arrived!

    As expected, they have simply copied the 'findings' of the HCP. ....which means there are inconsistencies and what I term 'lies' on the report....and a total refusal to consider almost all of the mental health issues. (Communicating and Reading both cored a big fat zero!....the report from the HCP said I struggled to communicate with them, mentioned all the observed signs of anxiety and still scored me zero, and the decision maker simply rubber-stamped this)

    However...I did score for some of the mental health issues, and the physical issues were very fairly recorded.

    When we looked at the criteria prior to completing the forms, Mum and I assessed my needs as Care 25 points and Mobility 8 points (under the 'new' would be 14 if they accepted Mental Health issues as impacting on mobility)....The HCP and Decision Maker awarded me Care 18 and Mobility 8.

    So, I have gone from DLA Lower Rate both Components to PiP Care Enhanced and Mobility Standard....which is the award I felt was justified. even though the report says I can do quite a bit that I know is impossible for me, I will not bother asking for an MR would be a HUGE stress for me (an my lovely Mum!) and getting extra Care points would have no effect on my actual award.

    The one thing that shocked me a little was the duration of the DLA was 'indefinite' and I was under the impression this was not given for Pip.....but this award is recorded as being 'ongoing' with a recommended date for reconsideration/renewal of 'after 2027' 10years!

    So ....I have the award I feel is right...and I did it without any help (other than my lovely old Mum!) for anyone else stressing about the transfer, it CAN be done!...The HCP report and the DM letter both reference the specialist reports that I enclosed with the application form (one of which was 10 years old, but as the condition is one that is ongoing it was still deemed relevant), so it clearly pays to send the relevant documents when applying....the Face-to-Face was a fight to arrange, but be strong, firm, insistent and above all polite when asking (and re-asking!) ...the Face-to-Face itself was a real headache - the HCP had no experience of my issues and it showed! The report is littered with inaccuracies and mistakes - but having someone with me was brilliant, Mum was able to state and relate my difficulties and how they relate to descriptors.

    Now, I can finally relax!....a big thank you to you all for the support and help! really helps to know that others are struggling though this process.

    For those going through it now, or expecting to go through it soon...a big virtual hug!...and remember you do NOT have to do this alone...a friend or family-member can be with you at all stages! honest when filling out the form...send all relevant evidence with the form if honest at the Face-to-Face (including NOT putting on a brave face and trying to say everything is fine!!!)
    • easy
    • By easy 10th Jun 17, 11:05 AM
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    Thanks for posting this.
    Enjoy your relaxing weekend now it's all done and dusted.
    I try not to get too stressed out on the forum. I won't argue, i'll just leave a thread if you don't like what I say.
    • Muttleythefrog
    • By Muttleythefrog 10th Jun 17, 1:27 PM
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    Thanks for the update.... in effect you've probably found yourself in similar situation to me... regarding the report and actually similar points and bettered award than DLA. Would love to have the duration of your award though lol... *rips your arm off*. I did pursue in reconsideration because I was so angry at inaccurate stuff including descriptors selected... I wasted a lot of time and effort doing so and essentially had to put marriage ahead of appeal possibility to some frustration. You may well have more quickly reached a place I ended up in... and perhaps you should have a nice strong cup of tea... and consider each sip as taking you further away from the horrors of claiming and towards a place of greater calm and clarity. Given your own 'internal' assessment with family is 'meaningfully accurate to their decision' I can only conclude you're making the right decision technically and on a human level.
    Last edited by Muttleythefrog; 10-06-2017 at 1:31 PM.
    "Do not attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence" - rogerblack
    • pollyanna 26
    • By pollyanna 26 10th Jun 17, 4:47 PM
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    pollyanna 26
    Prinzess I am so happy to read your update today .

    Feet up with cake for you and your lovely mum .

    Love polly
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