Rejecting a Brand New Car - unfit for purpose

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  • Rotti
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    Pollycat wrote: »
    I'd never buy ANY car without a test drive.

    I find that some designs give me a 'blind spot' caused by the door frame which I don't like when motorway driving.

    Some car seats I just KNOW that I'm not going to be comfortable in for a long period of time.

    And so on.

    But you CAN check vision and seat comfort and other physical attributes on a showroom model - which we did, but there was no demonstrator so a drive was not an option and has never been a problem before. Having had Pumas and Tigras I am used to "blind spots" but have yet to find a car without a door frame. :rotfl: To be honest I have to wonder how many of these posters on here are cyclists looking for an argument and don't even drive a car, let alone a convertible.
  • redped
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    Rotti wrote: »
    That is absolutely not the case - we LOVED the car - duh! - that's why we bought it!! It is NOT a proper convertible and as such was mis-sold, which is probably why they took it back without any fuss.

    Oh for goodness sake - "It is NOT a proper convertible"??? Can you lower the roof on the car? If so, it's a convertible. How do you define a "proper" convertible? One that has no wind buffeting above 40mph? Above 50mph? 60mph? 70mph? What's your definition?
  • Rotti
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    redped wrote: »
    It looks like Janet is spreading the word about her Wind problem (no pun intended :))

    http://fwd.channel5.com/cars/small-sports/renault-wind


    So if you've seen that you will have seen the comment from the other Tigra owner who gave it one less star than I did and "won't be driving it again", but I see you failed to mention that bit - doesn't suit your argument!
  • redped
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    Rotti wrote: »
    But you CAN check vision and seat comfort and other physical attributes on a showroom model - which we did, but there was no demonstrator so a drive was not an option and has never been a problem before. Having had Pumas and Tigras I am used to "blind spots" but have yet to find a car without a door frame. :rotfl: To be honest I have to wonder how many of these posters on here are cyclists looking for an argument and don't even drive a car, let alone a convertible.

    I'm a cyclist who owned a Z3 for 10 years, and now have a Z4 (the coupe version, so no nasty wind turbulence to worry about).
  • redped
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    Rotti wrote: »
    So if you've seen that you will have seen the comment from the other Tigra owner who gave it one less star than I did and "won't be driving it again", but I see you failed to mention that bit - doesn't suit your argument!

    If you had read the comment from the other Tigra owner, you'll see he says:

    "Got the Wind to replace the wife's Tigra and wish we hadn't bothered. I have just driven on the Whitby to Bridlington coast road and trust me I won't be driving it again.The handling is appalling so much so that I took it back to the dealer to make sure that everything was bolted on the right way up.If you are not a Jedi forget about parallel parking because the rear vision is that bad you have to use the force."

    No mention of wind turbulence, just that he hated the handling. Was the handling one of the other reasons you thought the car was unfit for purpose?
  • Pollycat
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    Rotti wrote: »
    But you CAN check vision and seat comfort and other physical attributes on a showroom model - which we did, but there was no demonstrator so a drive was not an option and has never been a problem before. Having had Pumas and Tigras I am used to "blind spots" but have yet to find a car without a door frame. :rotfl:

    Just where did I say I was looking for a car WITHOUT a door frame?

    I said 'some designs' - it just depends on how big the door is and how thick the door frame is. :doh:

    And sitting in a seat in a car in the showroom is not the same as driving over a bumpy road, is it?
    Pollycat wrote: »
    I'd never buy ANY car without a test drive.

    I find that some designs give me a 'blind spot' caused by the door frame which I don't like when motorway driving.

    Some car seats I just KNOW that I'm not going to be comfortable in for a long period of time.

    And so on.
    Rotti wrote: »
    To be honest I have to wonder how many of these posters on here are cyclists looking for an argument and don't even drive a car, let alone a convertible.

    To be honest, I have to wonder at the stupidity of someone spending £17K on a car they'd never test driven.....
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    redped wrote: »
    I'm a cyclist ...
    Interesting breed some of them ... a bit like a Jedi ?

    Come on you lot, get over it, will you? A smart MSE'er bought a specialist type of car that clearly most people would agree once they'd properly experienced it, is not fit for open top joys of the open road type driving - what else is a convertible for ? Jedis? Cyclists? Masochists? :p
  • redped
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    Interesting breed some of them ... a bit like a Jedi ?

    I'm afraid you've lost me on that one ... unlike the wind in the OP's Wind, that one went right over my head ...
  • Rotti
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    Pollycat wrote: »
    Just where did I say I was looking for a car WITHOUT a door frame?

    I said 'some designs' - it just depends on how big the door is and how thick the door frame is. :doh:

    And sitting in a seat in a car in the showroom is not the same as driving over a bumpy road, is it?





    To be honest, I have to wonder at the stupidity of someone spending £17K on a car they'd never test driven.....

    I resisted calling you stupid because you can't drive with a blind spot but........
    Like I said, all the cars I have bought since 1998 were bought on the same basis as test drives were not an option, so 2 out of three (Puma and Tigra) were a resounding success, but this car is absolutely appalling - and we didn't actually have any complaints about seat comfort - they are heated leather and the best bit of the interior.
  • neilmcl
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    Rotti wrote: »
    I resisted calling you stupid because you can't drive with a blind spot but........
    Like I said, all the cars I have bought since 1998 were bought on the same basis as test drives were not an option, so 2 out of three (Puma and Tigra) were a resounding success, but this car is absolutely appalling - and we didn't actually have any complaints about seat comfort - they are heated leather and the best bit of the interior.
    All that says is you've been lucky up to now and your luck has finally run out. If you keep insisting on buying cars without an adequate test drive then don't be surprised if you eventually come across one you don't get on with.
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