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  • cw18
    cw18 Posts: 8,619 Forumite
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    I'm totally confused by what's meant by "public service broadcast catch-up TV". It's either a broadcast or it isn't. To me public service means things like news and weather, not the soaps.
    Cheryl
  • Cornucopia
    Cornucopia Posts: 16,156 Forumite
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    Assuming they mean PSB as in the OFCOM definition, then its BBC1, BBC2, ITV1, C4 and 5.
  • GingerBob_3
    GingerBob_3 Posts: 3,659 Forumite
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    ScoobyZ wrote: »
    Just on the news they are closing the live TV loophole. You will have to pay again soon. I'm pleased to see that, too many people expecting something for nothing these days.


    It'll be interesting to see how they propose to "enforce" that one.
  • ScoobyZ
    ScoobyZ Posts: 487 Forumite
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    "It would involve changing the law so that people who watch TV via the iPlayer and other online catch-up services would have to have a TV licence."
  • Cornucopia
    Cornucopia Posts: 16,156 Forumite
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    Mr Whittingdale also confirmed plans to bring forward legislation to modernise the licence fee next year "to cover public service broadcast catch-up TV"

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33414693

    As a very general rule, the more detailed coverage tends to be the more accurate. It's because the non-detailed coverage has been hacked around by unintelligent sub-editors to make it "easier for people to understand".
  • roddydogs
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    ScoobyZ wrote: »
    "It would involve changing the law so that people who watch TV via the iPlayer and other online catch-up services would have to have a TV licence."

    All very well, but the Genies now out of the bottle, how would you prove that anyone with internet connection (or even with data) is watching the I.Player?
  • cw18
    cw18 Posts: 8,619 Forumite
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    By asking the ISP for details of sites that have been visited. So the big question is whether the BBC will be allowed to apply for that information.......
    Cheryl
  • Cornucopia
    Cornucopia Posts: 16,156 Forumite
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    edited 7 July 2015 at 9:21AM
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    roddydogs wrote: »
    All very well, but the Genies now out of the bottle, how would you prove that anyone with internet connection (or even with data) is watching the I.Player?

    You can't, and that's why the most plausible scenario for enforcement is this:-

    - the BBC will lock iPlayer to a Licence by requiring a Licence Number as part of a user profile. There will be various checks to ensure that a Licence Number is restricted to X number of user profiles (maybe 5 or 6).

    - the TVL doorsteppers will continue as now, but when they ask if you watch TV, that will also include catch-up services of PSBs.

    - nothing else, because there is nothing rationally and practically that can be done.
    cw18 wrote: »
    By asking the ISP for details of sites that have been visited. So the big question is whether the BBC will be allowed to apply for that information.......
    Extremely unlikely, IMHO. And it would only be part of the picture, anyway.
  • roddydogs
    roddydogs Posts: 7,478 Forumite
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    So youll only need 1 licence between 6 "Friends", cant see that bringing in much.
  • cw18
    cw18 Posts: 8,619 Forumite
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    Another scenario I just thought of....

    Sometimes when I visit the BBC news pages (which isn't often), there's a video clip from the news broadcast. Will watching that count as watching catch-up TV?
    Cheryl
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