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Brassedoff
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An experiment taking those having benefits back to 1949 when the welfare state first started. I recommend many on here watch!
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Just seen a chap who's disabled get nothing as he hadn't paid any NICs. Hopefully Cameron isn't watching this as it'll give him ideas!!
Although it is something like that now w.r..t CB ESA that after one year in the WRAG you get nothing if you have a working partner on >£150 a week.0 -
Just seen a chap who's disabled get nothing as he hadn't paid any NICs. Hopefully Cameron isn't watching this as it'll give him ideas!!
Although it is something like that now w.r..t CB ESA that after one year in the WRAG you get nothing if you have a working partner on >£150 a week.
He then gets assessed as "registered disabled" and awarded £104.55 a week.
The one I wonder about is the former care worker who appeared to be capable of working, but put up a fight about working. Sje showed that she was most certainly playing the system IMHO when she came out with the comment "I've done my share for Britain, let the younger workers do the work".0 -
Brassedoff...are you applying to be the witchfinder general for the Department of Witchfinding & Persecution?
You need to take your judgmental opinions to the "discussion time" section of the forum as stated by Martin Lewis:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=3659350 -
Have you watched it? Simple yes or no will do.0
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Brassedoff wrote: »He then gets assessed as "registered disabled" and awarded £104.55 a week.
On condition he went on a training course and was passed as capable by some doctor.
The 1949 system made this tory mob's system look human!!0 -
The wheelchair bound lad with Spina Bifida wanted a job. He felt training was a gateway to that.
The lady who from the start claimed several illnesses, although offered a place in a company where she met a lady who she went to School with, who you could see was physically disabled and working, did not even want to know.
The old chap realised how lonely he was.
Yet at the end, the duty the government placed on companies in 1949 to assist the disabled into work saw 94% of persons who were disabled in work (and there was three times the amount disabled due to the War), yet in 2013, they said that only 43% were in work.
They all (apart from the lady) agreed that the active help and assistance that was given for the lad getting his first ever job (he said he had only ever wanted to work) was beneficial.0 -
The disabled in 1949 were very different from the disabled today.
The workplace was very different, and families were very different.
Healthcare has meant that a lot of very disabled people who would otherwise die are instead living into a very disabled adulthood.
There are comparatively few 'simple' disabilities - for example losing a foot, leg, or arm in war, but being otherwise young and fit.
The workplace had a lot of very unskilled jobs that were literally standing there and pressing a button for 8 hours a day.
There was an extreme labour shortage.
Today, there is no obligation of companies to assist with the disabled - the happy notion of the disability discrimination act is supposed to have made that go away - and really hasn't.
There are many, many people fit people fighting for each job.
Many of these jobs are relatively skilled, and beyond the mental capacities of some of those now living into adulthood through improved healthcare.0 -
Yes, I would agree with your post.
Next week it's about council housing and how you were expected to keep it clean, lawns done etc.
I assume they will visit some sink estate with benefitted single mothers and immigrants to show how differently they would be treated.0 -
On condition he went on a training course and was passed as capable by some doctor.
The 1949 system made this tory mob's system look human!!
But thats what he wanted, he was desperate to get a job and wanted help to do so.
The female didn't care, she just wanted what she was "entitled to" and wouldn't do any work and refused any help.
At least the OAP tired his best and admitted the disabled need the most help.0 -
rogerblack wrote: »The disabled in 1949 were very different from the disabled today.
The workplace was very different, and families were very different.
Healthcare has meant that a lot of very disabled people who would otherwise die are instead living into a very disabled adulthood.
There are comparatively few 'simple' disabilities - for example losing a foot, leg, or arm in war, but being otherwise young and fit.
The workplace had a lot of very unskilled jobs that were literally standing there and pressing a button for 8 hours a day.
There was an extreme labour shortage.
Today, there is no obligation of companies to assist with the disabled - the happy notion of the disability discrimination act is supposed to have made that go away - and really hasn't.
There are many, many people fit people fighting for each job.
Many of these jobs are relatively skilled, and beyond the mental capacities of some of those now living into adulthood through improved healthcare.
And now we have many people working in call centres where they sit (and can stand occasionally) all day and speak on the telephone., something most physically disabled people can do.0
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