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liam8282

schrodie wrote: »

And the over 40% of the welfare budget that goes on pensioners would be a hell of a lot less!!!

Notice how I said "some" of the rules.

There were some good points from that programme that would solve a lot of the problems today.

schrodie

liam8282 wrote: »

Yes, I am pretty sure that there are genuine cases where people will be totally house bound and will not be able to get to work, even if they wanted to.

It's not a case of being housebound, it's a case of public transport being inaccessible. We then get people jumping on the daily mail garbage-wagon bemoaning that they won't get out and look for work!! How can they if they can't use PT.

liam8282 wrote: »

Then you will have people like Karen from the programme, who even with a disability car, would come up with an excuse of not being able to get to work. Couldn't get to work, or couldn't sit for a few hours because of the pain in her !!!!!, thumb, or wherever else she decided, but could certainly manage to take herself for her hair and nails doing.

You never know maybe the DWP were watching the programme!!!! :eek:

schrodie

liam8282 wrote: »

Notice how I said "some" of the rules.

Yes I did, but not which rules.

Frankly if you tried to apply "some" of the rules from that era you would create far more problems that currently exist.

liam8282

schrodie wrote: »

It's not a case of being housebound, it's a case of public transport being inaccessible. We then get people jumping on the daily mail garbage-wagon bemoaning that they won't get out and look for work!! How can they if they can't use PT.

I would say with some confidence that most cities have disabled access buses, trains, taxis. It would be the exception that they didn't provide disabled transport, rather than it being the norm.

If the only option is to use PT, how do they ever leave their house?

But, as I said earlier, people who want to argue and make excuses about everything are good at it, because they do it so often.

schrodie wrote: »

You never know maybe the DWP were watching the programme!!!! :eek:

Hopefully.

schrodie

liam8282 wrote: »

I would say with some confidence that most cities have disabled access buses, trains, taxis.

The problem with all of that is not everyone lives in cities(there are I think 50 in the UK) and given that disability is not confined to those who live in cities this fact could be a problem when it comes to accessible public transport for the disabled. Also not all taxis are wheelchair accessible as they are more expensive for the cabbie to buy also not everywhere in the country is served by a train service.

Dunroamin

schrodie wrote: »

I agree but it's it's a question of scale. I very much doubt they could have given the attention they gave to those three individuals to the couple'ish of million that are claiming sickness benefits today.

Then perhaps we should question why there are so many people claiming sickness benefits today compared to 1949?

Dunroamin

schrodie wrote: »

You assume that all public transport throughout the country is disabled friendly w.r.t. access. Very few of the buses that we have round here are disabled friendly with regard to access in that if you are in a wheelchair or use a mobility scooter you haven't hope in hell of getting onto the bus as there are steps to alight!

The government as far as I understand keeps putting back the date when all buses by law must be accessible to disabled people in wheelchairs...I wonder why!!!

Only a minority of disabled people use wheelchairs or scooters anyway.

Brassedoff

liam8282 wrote: »

Yes, I am pretty sure that there are genuine cases where people will be totally house bound and will not be able to get to work, even if they wanted to.

Then you will have people like Karen from the programme, who even with a disability car, would come up with an excuse of not being able to get to work. Couldn't get to work, or couldn't sit for a few hours because of the pain in her !!!!!, thumb, or wherever else she decided, but could certainly manage to take herself for her hair and nails doing.

lol, I noticed that. There must be a large number who chose it as a lifestyle choice. Did you notice her friend had no right hand, worked as a seamstress, yet that "Karen" could not be bothered.

She said it all as far as I was concerned when she used the words. "Why should I worK, I've done my bit, let those who have been on the dole for the past 20 years go out and work". IMHO she she should lose everything. Give her a choice JSA where she has to comply or nothing.

Brassedoff

liam8282 wrote: »

Notice how I said "some" of the rules.

There were some good points from that programme that would solve a lot of the problems today.

No, many posters here only see the key words that give them the starting signal to enter into their own diatribe.

dori2o

Dunroamin wrote: »

Only a minority of disabled people use wheelchairs or scooters anyway.

So if you don't use one of these methods of mobilising you have no excuse for not being able to commute to work or be able to maintain employment despite your disability?