Channel 4 9pm

liam8282

I thought it was a great programme.

I don't think it would hurt to bring a few of the old rules back, because the current system is a joke.

dori2o

Dunroamin wrote: »

And now we have many people working in call centres where they sit (and can stand occasionally) all day and speak on the telephone., something most physically disabled people can do.

Most probably can do. But it's not just a consideration of what they can do once at work. there are many other considerations to take into account when determining if someone can or cannot work.

Ideally, the Government should be pushing more and more companies, and their own departments to consider homeworking as this would help far more people who could work, but currently cannot due to problems with travelling, with not being able to get into work from one day to the next due to unpredictable conditions, needing time off to manage their condition.

If more companies invested in home working for staff, then those who struggle to get to and from work would have the option of working from home, and even when their condition is quite bad, they may be able to do some form of work.

Unfortunately, as I am experiencing, employers will do almost anything to prevent this option.

schrodie

tomtom256 wrote: »

But thats what he wanted, he was desperate to get a job and wanted help to do so.

The female didn't care, she just wanted what she was "entitled to" and wouldn't do any work and refused any help.

At least the OAP tired his best and admitted the disabled need the most help.

I was interested in the difference that 1949 applied between the chap in the wheelchair and the woman claiming sickness benefits.

Presumably by today's standards they would be claiming the same benefits either ESA and/or DLA but it seems according to the 1949 criteria if you were in a wheelchair you were disabled but if your weren't in a wheelchair you were just sick.

schrodie

liam8282 wrote: »

I thought it was a great programme.

I don't think it would hurt to bring a few of the old rules back, because the current system is a joke.

I agree but it's it's a question of scale. I very much doubt they could have given the attention they gave to those three individuals to the couple'ish of million that are claiming sickness benefits today.

liam8282

dori2o wrote: »

Most probably can do. But it's not just a consideration of what they can do once at work. there are many other considerations to take into account when determining if someone can or cannot work.

Ideally, the Government should be pushing more and more companies, and their own departments to consider homeworking as this would help far more people who could work, but currently cannot due to problems with travelling, with not being able to get into work from one day to the next due to unpredictable conditions, needing time off to manage their condition.

If more companies invested in home working for staff, then those who struggle to get to and from work would have the option of working from home, and even when their condition is quite bad, they may be able to do some form of work.

Unfortunately, as I am experiencing, employers will do almost anything to prevent this option.

Reading the follow up about the programme, Craig, accepted a job at the ticket agency and gets up at 6am to travel 30 miles to his job, using public transport and his wheel chair.

It is too easy for people to make excuses of why they can't do something.

liam8282

schrodie wrote: »

I agree but it's it's a question of scale. I very much doubt they could have given the attention they gave to those three individuals to the couple'ish of million that are claiming sickness benefits today.

Maybe so, but there wouldn't be a couple'ish of million claiming sickness benefits if they followed some of those rules today.

dori2o

liam8282 wrote: »

Reading the follow up about the programme, Craig, accepted a job at the ticket agency and gets up at 6am to travel 30 miles to his job, using public transport and his wheel chair.

It is too easy for people to make excuses of why they can't do something.

So because 1 disabled person can get to work OK everyone can?

I manage to get to work most days despite my condition, but I'm intelligent enough to realise this isn't the case for a lot of disabled people and the act of commuting is what prevents some people from working.

Making it far easier for people with disabilities to work, including helping them to work from home, is a benefit to everyone.

schrodie

liam8282 wrote: »

Maybe so, but there wouldn't be a couple'ish of million claiming sickness benefits if they followed some of those rules today.

And the over 40% of the welfare budget that goes on pensioners would be a hell of a lot less!!!

schrodie

liam8282 wrote: »

Reading the follow up about the programme, Craig, accepted a job at the ticket agency and gets up at 6am to travel 30 miles to his job, using public transport and his wheel chair.

It is too easy for people to make excuses of why they can't do something.

You assume that all public transport throughout the country is disabled friendly w.r.t. access. Very few of the buses that we have round here are disabled friendly with regard to access in that if you are in a wheelchair or use a mobility scooter you haven't hope in hell of getting onto the bus as there are steps to alight!

The government as far as I understand keeps putting back the date when all buses by law must be accessible to disabled people in wheelchairs...I wonder why!!!

liam8282

schrodie wrote: »

You assume that all public transport throughout the country is disabled friendly w.r.t. access. Very few of the buses that we have round here are disabled friendly with regard to access in that if you are in a wheelchair or use a mobility scooter you haven't hope in hell of getting onto the bus as there are steps to alight!

The government as far as I understand keeps putting back the date when all buses by law must be accessible to disabled people in wheelchairs...I wonder why!!!

Yes, I am pretty sure that there are genuine cases where people will be totally house bound and will not be able to get to work, even if they wanted to.

Then you will have people like Karen from the programme, who even with a disability car, would come up with an excuse of not being able to get to work. Couldn't get to work, or couldn't sit for a few hours because of the pain in her !!!!!, thumb, or wherever else she decided, but could certainly manage to take herself for her hair and nails doing.