Prepping for Brexit thread

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

Whatever happens is really out of our control, we'll get what the EU will allow and what our government will 'allow them to impose on us' not I feel what we were asked in the initial referendum question. I think we were naïve to believe otherwise.

It's not out of our control. We elected these MPs. Whether you agree or disagree with them, now is the time to say it! There are still votes to come.

I put pen to paper and informed my MP what I thought of TM's proposal, three days later I received a response of how she planned to vote based on our area and the Leave/Remain vote.

Whether you voted Leave or Remain, I think we can agree that the government is not doing a good job here. That is why I sent my MP a letter to inform her how I felt on the issue. They cannot work miracles but they need to know how their constituents feel.

As an European person, resident in the UK since 1983 and a full tax and NI payer until retirement, having contributed fully to the British economy and community until retirement, my biggest fear when brexit comes is the rampant racism that has accompanied the whole campaign since the vote results.

I have always worked (for the council, in the community and in the voluntary sector) and now that I am retired I volunteer. I have only claimed benefits when Mrs Thatcher pulled the carpet from under my working feet (twice!) by making me redundant with the abolition of the GLC and then the ILEA. As soon as i could i found work again. I'm no scrounger. But the way some newspapers talk, I'm being made feel like one, and I am deeply offended. And scared.

It might not be ALL the leave voters who are racist and xenophobes, but for someone like me, who thought I was a fully integrated and valuable citizen, it is a very VERY scary time.

I just thought I'd give an insight in what it feels like "on the other side".

I'm sure we will be able to buy whatever we like from abroad. Watch all that money leaking out of the economy. In terms of generating money though, selling is gong to be trickier, as we are basically sticking two fingers up to our biggest buyer. They *don't* need us. British people don't even buy the stuff we make, why would anyone else?

We can make our own food. Except the farms in the U.K. rely heavily on funding from the common agricultural policy, money from Europe. The government has agreed to maintain funding at that level for one year, and then overhaul. Studies I've read mostly suggest ditching the subsidies entirely, with the loss of things like sheep farming as an acceptable loss.

Ireland stays European, Europe creates the border, that means people too, not just goods. If we no deal, we are no longer a convenient land bridge to the continent, why would they go through two borders, two sets of customs instead of a new less fussy route. And TBH I don't really care about economy, it's people I'm worried for. Anything that could precipitate a return to the troubles makes my blood run cold.

This we'll make the best of it business all sounds very stoic and post war romantic, but there are complicated issues for specific groups this glosses over. You may be ok, but what about the very vulnerable?

Where I live there's been a group of Roma move into the area. The blatant racism they face has shocked me. I grew up in a super multicultural area, I taught in multicultural schools, I've seen racism before plenty, casual and more explicit, I've never seen this level of vitriol. People are publicly emboldened to say things that they'd have only muttered to their friends before the vote. This racism harks back to the era of Enoch Powell. It's deeply unpleasant. Not all leave voters are racist, but the racists have become more brave.

If everything is going to be so hunky dory, why the need for a prepping thread, why comment on it? Why have zero other European countries voted to leave? Why are supermarkets told to stockpile, and drug shortages expected?

Sky might not fall in, but to sit out a potential hurricane because it might not be that bad seems unwise.

Long dated tins and packets, essential medicine and kindness as an antidote to the unpleasantness surrounding this whole issue seem like the best preparation.