Whatever happens is really out of our control, we'll get what the EU will allow and what our government will 'allow them to impose on us' not I feel what we were asked in the initial referendum question. I think we were naïve to believe otherwise.
We will however survive even if the initial situation we find ourselves in is so far from the comfort and excesses of December 2018 with all the huge choices we have in all areas of life at present. There will be anger, blame, fear, resentment, possibly unrest and certainly political shenannegins , it will become clear just how much we have left, we'll stop throwing the toys out of the pram and possibly start to grow up as a nation. I doubt that we'll grow together for quite a while though as the rift between leavers and remainers appears to be deeper than the Grand Canyon and there will be some absolute screaming tantrums thrown. When all settles again and the initial feeling of panic has subsided a little it ought to be more than possible to make a good life on our little island once again, perhaps our farmers and producers will be able to untie some of the red tape that they're wrapped in and do the job they would like to do without rules and conditions imposed on them that work well in mid continental countries but not on a small rocky island in the North Atlantic. The EU will still need our trade, all the shouting can't alter that, they need us to buy their goods too or all will feel the pinch through out both the UK and Europe and there is an awful lot of the rest of the world that isn't Europe so there will still be an active economy and life will go on.
Food wise we will look to produce as much of our own as we possibly can and will look to buy locally, hopefully we'll be in a position to buy at the farm gate or in the markets and have some control on what's in the products we choose but I'd try to buy UK grown/made rather than imports anyway.
Who knows, it might not be quite as bad as the media and the remainers make out? we won't know until we're there and the rhetoric and noise levels will rise dramatically as we get ever closer, there will be a great deal of nastiness, anger and very hard words and that's out of our control too. We shall do heads down, normal life until proven otherwise and just keep plodding on.....
I can,t help thinking that this whole business was entered into very prematurely without our politicians, civil servants or members of the public having the faintest idea of the complexities of the operation on which we would all be embarking. The ministrations of various sectors of the media have now helped.
It will certainly be a future Harvard Business School case study on How Not to Handle a National Peoject of multiple complexities though. .
However, we are where we are, and until some kind of resolution is found we need to keep our heads down, our tempers and frustrations under control and our domestic affairs well planned and as organised as we can.
I am not angry (yet!) but rather more perplexed, and as Primrose says it beggars belief that the government took us into this with not an ounce of knowledge about the complex exit route and the dire eventualities. I am glad to be at the stage in my life where the house is paid for and I have no debt and no dependents and if my work dried up (as it very well might for a year or two) then it wouldn't be the end of the world. It must be very daunting for the younger generation with young families and big mortgages. The whole Brexit thing is like a scratched 78 droning on and on without any movement and if anybody had written this as a novel it would have been dismissed as totally unbelievable. I think I will buy pulses and lentils with my Tesco gift vouchers and get the polytunnel up as soon as possible in the spring on the lottie, and at least I will feel I am doing something positive. As Mrs. LW says, everything else is completely out of our control.
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Well the government has decided to get ready in case of a No Deal now so I think it’s time to think more seriously about my prepping.
I’ll keep my cupboards full, make sure there’s fuel in the car and that I have a little cash at all time.
I worry that there may be unrest and if so want to be able to stay in or go if necessary without worrying about having to shop.
Our GP won’t allow us to request more of our prescriptions than are needed so no stocking up ahead of that so I hope this is one of the areas the government will cover in their preps.
As OH is retired we won’t be as affected as some if fuel is held up at the ports and I can walk to work if necessary.
It’s worrying that it has come to this but at least there is a few months to keep prepping.
I hope everyone is keeping well and warm and looking forward to Christmas
Cuddles
Well - my first thought if it comes to a "leave with No Deal" situation is it's basically a "Do a Dunkirk" Mark 2 situation if need be.
I'm rather assuming that, if there's no room left on ferries for goods to come into the country - well we have plenty of "leisure boats" in individual hands and, if need be, then individual boat-owners (whether off their own bat and hoping for a "profit situation" for themselves personally:cool::( or through a government scheme) could just load up their boats one side of the channel with the goods we need and unload them again our side of the channel.
If that's what it takes for us to "Get out - and hopefully close our borders back up a bit" then that's what it takes and I'd certainly be ready to "set sale" personally and head across the Channel to do my bit to pick up goods if need be to get us through any "days of disruption" temporarily.
Money, whether goods come in by little boat or big ship, the bottleneck in a no deal situation will be the customs. You're not offering to be a smuggler are you?
And over and above supply routes, there is the little matter of the Irish border which cannot be closed because of the Good Friday agreement.
And on this afternoons newsfeed is an article that the government will have 3,500 troops on stand by in case of civil unrest post Brexit, and the I read it's probably for 'logistical reasons'??? and advice has been given that firms and businesses should prepare for the No Deal Brexit according to their own needs and visions of the future.....I'm wondering if the government even has a Plan 'A' at the moment let alone B, C or D???
3500 troops of any description is like whistling in the wind as far as I am concerned. Factor that by a scale of 10 and I might feel more comfortable.
Back to the beans and lentils!
A young facebook friend today was worrying about his pain relief for arthritis (he is only about 40) and the chartered ships suggested by the buffoons in government make me wonder whether I should ask my friends in far-flung places to stand by with food parcels and beta blockers!
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Mortgage and Debt Free. Unfortunately Pension Free too!
I've enjoyed trying to catch up on this thread but there is a lot to take in. Makes interesting reading though... thank you all for the tips!
I am preparing now for brexit. I have stocked up on tinned and dried food, have acquired a wind-up mobile phone charger and plenty of candles, and am researching a calor gas heater. I have several things I still want to do, such as buying hot water bottles and extra blankets, and generally trying to work out ways to stay warm and fed when availability may reduce and prices might go up. Easing ourselves over the transition whatever happens is a good idea I think.
I have subscribed and look forward to joining the chat as we head into the final 100 days.
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Money, whether goods come in by little boat or big ship, the bottleneck in a no deal situation will be the customs. You're not offering to be a smuggler are you?
And over and above supply routes, there is the little matter of the Irish border which cannot be closed because of the Good Friday agreement.
In a no deal situation we control what comes in, so customs would be up to us to implement, or not
Same with Irish border, we would not close it, maybe the Irish would like to? In that case it would be nose & face job for them as a lot of their exports use UK as a land bridge to the continent
Keeping a tank of fuel would be common sense, but AFAIK the oil wells on the continent will still be dry[ joke] and oil will continue to flow from North Sea, Norway and as it does now, by tanker from Middle East
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We will however survive even if the initial situation we find ourselves in is so far from the comfort and excesses of December 2018 with all the huge choices we have in all areas of life at present. There will be anger, blame, fear, resentment, possibly unrest and certainly political shenannegins , it will become clear just how much we have left, we'll stop throwing the toys out of the pram and possibly start to grow up as a nation. I doubt that we'll grow together for quite a while though as the rift between leavers and remainers appears to be deeper than the Grand Canyon and there will be some absolute screaming tantrums thrown. When all settles again and the initial feeling of panic has subsided a little it ought to be more than possible to make a good life on our little island once again, perhaps our farmers and producers will be able to untie some of the red tape that they're wrapped in and do the job they would like to do without rules and conditions imposed on them that work well in mid continental countries but not on a small rocky island in the North Atlantic. The EU will still need our trade, all the shouting can't alter that, they need us to buy their goods too or all will feel the pinch through out both the UK and Europe and there is an awful lot of the rest of the world that isn't Europe so there will still be an active economy and life will go on.
Food wise we will look to produce as much of our own as we possibly can and will look to buy locally, hopefully we'll be in a position to buy at the farm gate or in the markets and have some control on what's in the products we choose but I'd try to buy UK grown/made rather than imports anyway.
Who knows, it might not be quite as bad as the media and the remainers make out? we won't know until we're there and the rhetoric and noise levels will rise dramatically as we get ever closer, there will be a great deal of nastiness, anger and very hard words and that's out of our control too. We shall do heads down, normal life until proven otherwise and just keep plodding on.....
It will certainly be a future Harvard Business School case study on How Not to Handle a National Peoject of multiple complexities though. .
However, we are where we are, and until some kind of resolution is found we need to keep our heads down, our tempers and frustrations under control and our domestic affairs well planned and as organised as we can.
Mortgage and Debt Free. Unfortunately Pension Free too!
I’ll keep my cupboards full, make sure there’s fuel in the car and that I have a little cash at all time.
I worry that there may be unrest and if so want to be able to stay in or go if necessary without worrying about having to shop.
Our GP won’t allow us to request more of our prescriptions than are needed so no stocking up ahead of that so I hope this is one of the areas the government will cover in their preps.
As OH is retired we won’t be as affected as some if fuel is held up at the ports and I can walk to work if necessary.
It’s worrying that it has come to this but at least there is a few months to keep prepping.
I hope everyone is keeping well and warm and looking forward to Christmas
Cuddles
I'm rather assuming that, if there's no room left on ferries for goods to come into the country - well we have plenty of "leisure boats" in individual hands and, if need be, then individual boat-owners (whether off their own bat and hoping for a "profit situation" for themselves personally:cool::( or through a government scheme) could just load up their boats one side of the channel with the goods we need and unload them again our side of the channel.
If that's what it takes for us to "Get out - and hopefully close our borders back up a bit" then that's what it takes and I'd certainly be ready to "set sale" personally and head across the Channel to do my bit to pick up goods if need be to get us through any "days of disruption" temporarily.
And over and above supply routes, there is the little matter of the Irish border which cannot be closed because of the Good Friday agreement.
Back to the beans and lentils!
A young facebook friend today was worrying about his pain relief for arthritis (he is only about 40) and the chartered ships suggested by the buffoons in government make me wonder whether I should ask my friends in far-flung places to stand by with food parcels and beta blockers!
Mortgage and Debt Free. Unfortunately Pension Free too!
I am preparing now for brexit. I have stocked up on tinned and dried food, have acquired a wind-up mobile phone charger and plenty of candles, and am researching a calor gas heater. I have several things I still want to do, such as buying hot water bottles and extra blankets, and generally trying to work out ways to stay warm and fed when availability may reduce and prices might go up. Easing ourselves over the transition whatever happens is a good idea I think.
I have subscribed and look forward to joining the chat as we head into the final 100 days.
Mortgage overpayment £260
Debtfree!
£21,228.07 paid off in 22 months
In a no deal situation we control what comes in, so customs would be up to us to implement, or not
Same with Irish border, we would not close it, maybe the Irish would like to? In that case it would be nose & face job for them as a lot of their exports use UK as a land bridge to the continent
Keeping a tank of fuel would be common sense, but AFAIK the oil wells on the continent will still be dry[ joke] and oil will continue to flow from North Sea, Norway and as it does now, by tanker from Middle East