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Pre-booked holidays with new job
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getmore4less wrote: »You make the holiday a contractual obligation of accepting the job.
Exactly chances are if they havent mentioned holidays, salary hasnt been mentioned either. Do they really want to offer the job to the inferior candidate when they have all ready ended up with egg on their faces .They would surely want to work around the candidate so they have the best person for role0 -
getmore4less wrote: »You make the holiday a contractual obligation of accepting the job.
Yes this is what someone done who accepted a job in a depot in April time that would have required that year's Christmas off did. A very important month along with November that had been most strictly forbidden for any booking off to everyone and anyone else only the year before. (Whether they would have got away with an October job start then for holiday that December less convinced.)
They still work there today. They were very well versed on their rights. I could have learnt a thing or two I'm sure.
It's all in the timing.0 -
From a personal point of view, both with a manager's hat on and as a prospective employee, I would much rather have as much information as possible up-front. Then informed decisions can be made by all parties.
As a manager I would always ask if any holidays have been booked, and as an applicant I would always offer the information if I wasn't asked for it.0 -
I agree, I would mention it at job offer as you have more bargaining power at that stage. If they follow the right process, they will have scored you and offering you the job because you scored higher. Having to go back and justify why you are no longer the top candidate is unlikely to be something they will want to do.
In the end, if it was going to be an issue for them, they would have made it a question at the interview. Saying that, there is a difference between one week pre-book that would come 6 months after starting the job and 1 month to Australia 2 weeks after starting.0 -
If you tell them at the interview you at least are giving them a chance to get someone to cover the period your off.0
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I agree, I would mention it at job offer as you have more bargaining power at that stage. If they follow the right process, they will have scored you and offering you the job because you scored higher. Having to go back and justify why you are no longer the top candidate is unlikely to be something they will want to do.
In the end, if it was going to be an issue for them, they would have made it a question at the interview. Saying that, there is a difference between one week pre-book that would come 6 months after starting the job and 1 month to Australia 2 weeks after starting.
Another reason not to mention during interview because in that case you would probably want to negotiate a later start date.
pre offer stage if asked or hints that an early start was required it may get discussed, if that is critical to the business then perhaps not the best person for the job at that time.
Post off gives the candidate the advantage in most cases.0 -
Exactly chances are if they havent mentioned holidays, salary hasnt been mentioned either. Do they really want to offer the job to the inferior candidate when they have all ready ended up with egg on their faces .They would surely want to work around the candidate so they have the best person for role
Depends on the role. For a truck driver, well the second choice may be as good, in fact, he may be a better choice than the first - until you let them loose on their own, you never really know.
Personally I would want to know at the interview stage if there were imminent plans, but as far as drivers go, it wouldn't change a job offer even if it were for two weeks a week after they started.
If it was for management role and they sprung a similar holiday plan, ie two weeks after a week in the job, I'd withdraw the offer on principle. I don't expect management to pull stunts like that and as for using it as negotiation, it tells me that they don't fit with our culture. I lay everything the good and the bad on the line at the interview, I expect the same.
If as a management applicant it's for holiday over three months away for example, then I'd not be bothered, but why not just say. It's easier to work in an atmosphere of co-operation than continually trying to get one over on others.0 -
Personally I would wait until I had an offer of employment.
I wouldn't want to give the employer any reason to choose another candidate at the interview stage.
I'd politely mention my holiday at the same time as accepting the job offer. By then the employer has already made a formal job offer, and is more committed to hiring me as a candidate.
It does depends on the circumstances though. If it is the kind of job where the employer would be wanting you to start immediately (rather than sitting out your notice period with a former employer), you might want to mention it earlier.0 -
heatherw_01 wrote: »When should you mention what pre-booked holidays you have? The interview or the job offer?
How important is the holiday? I may be inclined to say nothing and see what develops re a job offer with a view to cancelling my booking if necessary, holidays can be rearranged (unless a trip of a lifetime) perhaps not the job.Don’t be a can’t, be a can.0 -
How important is the holiday? I may be inclined to say nothing and see what develops re a job offer with a view to cancelling my booking if necessary, holidays can be rearranged (unless a trip of a lifetime) perhaps not the job.
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