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studentphil wrote:On the issue of students looking bored in lectures that is because research has proven time after time that lectures are an ineffective teaching method.
Read for a degree, that is a laugh as you can never get hold of any books on the reading list. You can get hold similar books if you are really lucky.
However, most of time you are stuck with the reading packet and what is on the online databases.
Lectures are the most cost effective method of delivering knowledge and it is useful for people whose main way of absorbing information is through listening.
And as for reading, that is the most appalling excuse. I will never accept that from any of my students. Nowadays, you can even sit and read the books in Borders without having to buy it if you don't want to.
I find that students who do want to work hard will be able to complete it whereas those who are choose not to will often find some sort of way to dodge the subject. This is true in all walks of life, you get hardworking people and you get lazy people.0 -
melancholly wrote:
anyway - i should stop this work avoidance and get back to editing a paper!!!
OH...where is it going? Exciting...0 -
misskool wrote:Lectures are the most cost effective method of delivering knowledge and it is useful for people whose main way of absorbing information is through listening.
And as for reading, that is the most appalling excuse. I will never accept that from any of my students. Nowadays, you can even sit and read the books in Borders without having to buy it if you don't want to.
I find that students who do want to work hard will be able to complete it whereas those who are choose not to will often find some sort of way to dodge the subject. This is true in all walks of life, you get hardworking people and you get lazy people.
There are no philosophy books suitable for a philosophy degree in a normal book shop I am affaird. So it is all srumming in the library, 80 students for 2 copies of a book. This is wider reading of course, you have to buy the course texts.
I think arts might be very different to science though.
Lectures are proven to be cheap but rubbish way of teaching, but the cheapness means they stay.:beer:0 -
studentphil wrote:I do believe she did a MSc first though, but I think she had a fight to get onto that.
I think you can do 2.2. masters then PHD, but 2.1 is really a must to go BSc to PHD directly.
My friend got a 2.2 and then did a masters and then PhD and is hoping to finish soon. But here you cannot do a masters without having a 2.2. And although it seems a bit harsh I can understand why. Because in general people with less than a 2.1 in a subject are not going to be able to cope well enough with a PhD. Unless like you say there was a valid reason as to why the degree grade was lower.
Where did your friend do her masters and PhD. I am only asking cos a girl I know got a third. She is brill in the lab though and wants to work in research. She cannot get onto a masters course at most uni's she's looked at as they stipulate you definately need a 2.2.
Maybe some uni's are slightly more lax about things like this.0 -
I think it was Huddersfield where she did the Masters. And then Sheffield for the PHD.
Newer universities tend to be a bit less keen on the 2.1 stuff and she had a third from a top uni so that helped too.
Bradford will take a 2,2 for a masters rather than a 2.1 if that helps!!:beer:0 -
My husband went on straight to do his degree after getting a 2.2.
I don't know which uni you are at studentphil but it doesn't sound like they have great library facilities. But then again perhaps this is something students should checkout when they apply...0 -
Heth wrote:My husband went on straight to do his degree after getting a 2.2.
I don't know which uni you are at studentphil but it doesn't sound like they have great library facilities. But then again perhaps this is something students should checkout when they apply...
It is just a case of there are too many students to too few copies of a book.
You can often find other books that are similar but are not quite as good.
The Health sciences library is great with tons of books on medical ethics that med students never take out and that is why I am research Disability and ethics stuff as almost no one in the whole uni wants the books and journals on that.:beer:0 -
misskool wrote:All welcome aboard in this thread, as melancholly says, misery loves company.
Since I started the rant, I thought I could start the rants! I've sent my laptop in to be fixed and it feels like I'm dealing with untrained monkeys....it's too late now to deal with anything so will have to ring them tomorrow. Seems a bit frustrating when it feels like real life gets in the way of the PhD! Or am I the only weird one here?
Hey CrazyChemist: How's about I grill you in molecular biology techniques. I need to troubleshoot a Western blot,
I am a biology postdoc. If you want any advice, I'd be happy (to try) to help!0 -
Hello Pelican, welcome to the crazy thread where we talk about all sorts of random things!
What biology do you do?0
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