Computer - Television - license

littleowl

Ice wrote: »

just get a bloody Licence like all the rest of us...:rotfl:

My original point was that I watch relatively little television and find that paying an ever increasing license fee rather a strain. I am not trying to circumvent the law just wondering whether it is possible to use the computer to watch iPlayer and 4OD on a television set linked to a computer rather just on the computer itself.

CHR15

I've not looked at the links in any of these replies but I am sure you need a license besause you own a TV....period.

The TV contains the receiver which is capable of receiving TV signals from the BBC, this is what you are licensing.

If you disposed of ALL the televisions in your house and owned no method of receiving BBC TV Signals you may have a chance.

Piping a stream into a Television is not really anything to do with a licensing issue, more a techy issue.

[Deleted User]

esuhl wrote: »

I see what you mean, but why should they waste my time by requiring me to write a letter, when I haven't committed an offence and have no obligation to reply? Jeez. I'm becoming a grumpy old git in my old age!!!

I'd rather take ten minutes of my time than leaving it to the point that people keep coming to my door over it!

weegie.geek

CHR15 wrote: »

I've not looked at the links in any of these replies but I am sure you need a license besause you own a TV....period.

The TV contains the receiver which is capable of receiving TV signals from the BBC, this is what you are licensing.

If you disposed of ALL the televisions in your house and owned no method of receiving BBC TV Signals you may have a chance.

Piping a stream into a Television is not really anything to do with a licensing issue, more a techy issue.

Sorry, you're completely wrong, and voicing your understanding of it like this only perpetuates the myth that it's a license for owning a TV.

The only thing a license is for is to allow you to legally watch or record TV as it's being broadcast.

It's about as simple as that.

bat999

weegie.geek wrote: »

It's about as simple as that.

Read it and weep:-http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/ukpga_20030021_en_34

CHR15

weegie.geek wrote: »

Sorry, you're completely wrong, and voicing your understanding of it like this only perpetuates the myth that it's a license for owning a TV.

It's completely false comments like that which is leading to all the confusion in this post.

You DO NOT need a licence for a computer MONITOR because it HAS NO RECEIVER.

You NEED a licence for an LCD TV (which outwardly looks identical) BECAUSE IT HAS A RECEIVER.

That is why, when you BUY a TV you MUST BY LAW fill out a TV Licensing form which has your address on it.

buglawton

Plus you can now watch 'live' UK channels with about a 10 sec delay. I wonder how this affects the license issue. We are still talking 40p per day license though. It funds the iPlayer plus radio programmes too (and the UK has the best). When you consider it all the license price is fair IMHO.

littleowl

OK - so if I buy a wide screen display (not television) to go with the iMac that is acceptable. The cost of that would be defrayed in less than four years.

oneandonlyboy

Um couldnt you just get a black and white telly second hand and then only buy a black and white license for 30 odd pounds

I only have a black and white telly as i dont watch much telly.

weegie.geek

CHR15 wrote: »

It's completely false comments like that which is leading to all the confusion in this post.

You DO NOT need a licence for a computer MONITOR because it HAS NO RECEIVER.

You NEED a licence for an LCD TV (which outwardly looks identical) BECAUSE IT HAS A RECEIVER.

That is why, when you BUY a TV you MUST BY LAW fill out a TV Licensing form which has your address on it.

YOU DO NOT NEED A LICENSE FOR A TELEVISION. You need a license for watching TV or recording it when it's being broadcast. How many times does it need to be said? There are dozens of threads about this topic on MSE and the same nonsense gets trotted out by those who believe the half-truths the TVLA spout.

bat999 wrote: »

Read it and weep:-http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/ukpga_20030021_en_34

Read it and weep? Like you read it, you mean? I say that because I know you didn't read the entire bloody thing...

You're both completely wrong, but feel free to perpetuate the myth that simply owning a TV means you need a license.

Read to the bottom of that page and see what a "television receiver" is defined as.

"(3) References in this Part to using a television receiver are references to using it for receiving television programmes."

Receiving television programmes. If you're not using it to receive television programmes, like I've been saying all along, it's not classed as a television receiver, therefore no license is necessary.
Do you two work for the TVLA or are you just scaremongering fools?

I can understand you not understanding the legalese on the OPSI site, so how about the plain english on the TVLA site?

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/index.jsp#link1

Read it. Weep or not, I don't take the same joy from proving people wrong as you appear to, I just want to stop idiots misleading people. If I did take pleasure from it and gloat like you have been since you posted that, I'd probably make double sure I was correct, for fear of looking like an !!!!.

Here's a nice screenshot for you as well.



Can we put this to bed now? I'm bored of arguing with fools. I'm going to suggest that martin does a tip in the newsletter about this, because there could be lots of people who're paying for a license but don't need to, they just believe the nonsense they read on here.