Childminders charging half fees when they are away on holiday.

thatgirlsam

Dippychick wrote: »

I am presuming he is registered as she told me he is the one with Car Insured to take the kids out on trips!

he must drive a coach to be able to fit all those kids in:D

jay11_2

Dippychick wrote: »

I suggested it is - especially as some childminders - not all at all - cram 8 kids in one room.

For example - 8 x £30 a day = £240
a week = £1200

Over a year = approximately 60k

Then a childminder only has to declare 1 third of that income - they are only taxed on a third of that I believe.

VERY NICE EARNER - not for me though or my husband. And we never got past the stage of laughing about how it wouldn't suit us and how we don't have the room


Anyways. The point is.

I am not having a go at anyone claiming Tax Credits - I was just pointing out, that for those who get practically the full 70% paid and then don't mind paying all the half fees/full fees to the childminders, wont miss the money anyways as it is given to them.

Very fair comment and I am sure the Mums and Dads on this board who struggle without any help will see where I am coming from.

The one third rule only applies to someone who would otherwise claim income support, e.g. a single parent with no other income, and there may well be a cut off point, I only know what I've stated here (I am not having a go at single parents btw, they do a tough job).

If you have additional household income, (like a partner who works) then your gross childminding income--less certain expenses, just like any other self-employed person--is used to calculate tax liability. I know this because I was a childminder for a number of years until a couple of years ago. Allowable expenses include petrol for driving minded children on outings/to school etc., a proportion of heating, food, in short all those expenses claimable by nurseries and other care providers.

Childminding can pay well, I certainly earned a decent amount, even though I chose not to fill all my 'spaces'--I felt this would prevent me from providing a high enough quality of care, and didn't charge for my holidays. I have no idea how any childminder can justify that!

However it is very hard work and brings a lot of hassle--strangers in your home; loads of paperwork; etc, and ultimatley wasn't worth it. I take my hat off to all those who do stick it out.

bestpud

thatgirlsam wrote: »

maybe such hairdressers shoud use a childminder

Well, yes, you could argue that I guess! :rotfl:

Mips

thatgirlsam wrote: »

he must drive a coach to be able to fit all those kids in:D

I know :rotfl:

It was an 8 seater thing, similar to ours

Can he be registered as an Assistant? I don't understand this bit

thatgirlsam

Dippychick wrote: »

I know :rotfl:

It was an 8 seater thing, similar to ours

Can he be registered as an Assistant? I don't understand this bit

im not totally sure, but i think he would have to be registered in the same way every childminder is.. whether you are an assistant or minder with sole charge

jay11_2

You can be registered as an 'assistant', (its somewhere in the OFSTED info), but can't be left alone with the children--I never saw the point myself, all it does is increase the number of children the minder can care but not much else. Two childminders can work together in one house but remain individually responsible for an 'allocation' of children, and can obviously be alone with children, unlike an 'assistant'.

full-time-mum

Dippychick wrote: »

Childminders only have to declare on third of their income too I believe.

You can't have it both ways. You are either self-employed or you aren't!

Joe the plasterer doesn't get money for taking a Week off.

My point exactly.

ellies_angel

Back to the message about childminders charging when they are on hoilday.

I don't know about you but I get paid holidays.

I am a trainer and assessor in childcare SVQ's and have had childminder candidates. Many of the childminders co-ordinate their holidays with their families so they are taking them at the same time, but the familes still pay, why should be not.

Mips

ellies_angel wrote: »

Back to the message about childminders charging when they are on hoilday.

I don't know about you but I get paid holidays.

I am a trainer and assessor in childcare SVQ's and have had childminder candidates. Many of the childminders co-ordinate their holidays with their families so they are taking them at the same time, but the familes still pay, why should be not.

Are you Self-Employed ?

bootifulbabe

:j HI,
I would just like to say I have been childminding for nearly 5 years now. I don't charge anything for when I'm on holiday as I think it's not fair because parents do have to find alternative childcare, but I do charge half fees for when they are on holiday, as it's not my fault they are not coming to me. I'm off to the states for 3 weeks soon (all my parents had over 1 years notice and have been totally fine with this! and it is a one off!!) so as you can imagine my pay for July will be rubbish, but this is something I have to put up with if I have to be fair to my parents.
I have also not added any extra to my hourly rate.