Does anyone have a Mac?

M4RKM

Leopard wrote: »

What the hell do you mean, you "totally, totally disagree" ?

The problem with Airport Express units dying suddenly and prematurely is widely documented all over the world. Thousands of people have expressed their grievance about it.

Even just a simple Google search on "Airport Express died" and "Airport Express dead" will throw up hundreds.

I'm pleased for you if the Markymoo household's own Airport Express has been trouble-free but it's highly irresponsible to commend to people on MSE a £100 device that has a serious reliability problem; those who then buy it may not be as rich as you are and be unable to afford to bear such a loss easily if. like so many others', theirs pegs out shortly after its warranty expires.

fair argument, and it isn't something i've researched, as i've already said mine is perfectly fine. i'm sure there are plenty of products that there are huge issues with that just don't get as much press though...

and i really love your assumption that i'm rich, etc... really nice of you...

sorry for stating my own opinion.

M

TiTheRev

Ladies, ladies...! Handbags down, it's what this forum is about. Getting others opinions but then doing the research yourself and making an educated decision. I will probably not invest in Airport express because ive read into it since the conversation, but can equally believe that Markymoo's unit has been fine, ive had similar things with products ive bought but everyone else complains about.

Leopard

TiTheRev wrote: »

Ladies, ladies...! Handbags down...

Stop being sexually offensive, yourself.

Scant reward to those who have tried to help you with your computer problem but whose logical troubleshooting advice you seem to ignore.

What's important here is not people's egos; what's important is giving sound and safe advice to others.

The issue I took with Markymoo was not that s/he expressed an original opinion with which I disagreed. What Markymoo did was attempt to discredit a warning I gave about a quite expensive product with a well-documented reliability problem.

Although some people are rich enough to be impatient about how long they had to wait to spend upwards (in some cases a lot upwards) of £639 over 18 months to buy a plastic mobile 'phone with a sealed-in battery, no memory expansion slot, no MMS and a pathetically pointless 2 MP camera, a lot of other people on this site can't afford to spend £100 on a wireless router that fails, out of warrantly, after little over a year.

It is those people, above all, who need to be protected from dangerous advice here.

Bob63

Leopard wrote: »

Although some people are rich enough to be impatient about how long they had to wait to spend upwards (in some cases a lot upwards) of £639 over 18 months to buy a plastic mobile 'phone with a sealed-in battery, no memory expansion slot, no MMS and a pathetically pointless 2 MP camera, a lot of other people on this site can't afford to spend £100 on a wireless router that fails, out of warrantly, after little over a year.

£639 is not the cost of an iPhone. It is the cost of an iPhone and 18 months of a minutes/SMS bundle and Cloud wifi access and 3G data.

Sounds like people here need to be protected from dangerous opinionated people who obscure the facts to score points off other people.

Cloudane

Hmm to be exact you could probably call it the Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) of an iPhone. It's quite important to consider the TCO when comparing costs... printers are another good example e.g. you can think "cool, £20 for a printer, bargain" and then pay £18 for cartridges every couple of weeks.

For me it's worth the extra money despite its shortcomings for having the best mobile web browser that exists in present time. YMMV.

Apple threads are always like this btw. Apple are a bit Marmite-ish, combine this with the religious battle between systems (like with XBox vs PS3) and you get a lot of flaming going on

TiTheRev

Leopard wrote: »

Stop being sexually offensive, yourself.

Scant reward to those who have tried to help you with your computer problem but whose logical troubleshooting advice you seem to ignore.

That was not the intent, I merely was injecting a bit of humour into a tense debate. I value the opinions I get here, hence I keep asking, and have used the info supplied where applicable.

Let's each take a chill pill and wipe the slate :cool:

Leopard

TiTheRev wrote: »

That was not the intent, I merely was injecting a bit of humour into a tense debate. I value the opinions I get here, hence I keep asking, and have used the info supplied where applicable.

Let's each take a chill pill and wipe the slate :cool:

Whatever its intent, it was indeed offensive and it gave offence.

Nor was it remotely witty.



The simple way to discover whether it is your Mac's internal hard drive that is faulty is to boot it off an external Firewire drive and see whether it stays stable while running off that.

I have explained this to you already.

It sounds more like a motherboard fault (including any hard-wired RAM) but it could just be a loose or faulty connection with either your additional RAM or your internal hard drive. Check those.

Where, and how far away, is your nearest Apple service centre or Apple Retail Store?

If money needs to be spent on it, you have to weigh up whether or not it would be better to invest that in a new (or Apple refurb) Intel Mac, instead. Apple will abandon support for PPC in the forseeable future. It's time to switch to Intel, when an opportune moment to do so arises. This may well be one.

If you flog a defective laptop on eBay without being candid about its condition you are likely to regret the consequences of doing so.
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Leopard

cheesy.mike wrote: »

£639 is not the cost of an iPhone. It is the cost of an iPhone and 18 months of a minutes/SMS bundle and Cloud wifi access and 3G data.

Sounds like people here need to be protected from dangerous opinionated people who obscure the facts to score points off other people.

I didn't suggest an iPhone itself costs £639 to buy. What I wrote (with diligent care) was that £639, over a period of 18 months, is the minimum sum that you have to spend in order to buy a 3G iPhone conventionally, through either O2 or Apple in Britain.

I fully support Cloudane's view that that's fine if you want one and can afford it. :T

My remark was aimed at someone who spent a lot of time on here posting about how impatient s/he was to spend that sort of money on a 'phone and then started commending, to those who cannot necessarily afford to do that, the virtues of an Apple device that costs £100 and has a well-documented history of unreliability.

What people actually need to be protected from, here, is investing in kit that can cost them money they cannot afford if it dies prematurely.

Putting up with snide illiterates who don't read postings properly costs them nothing (except patience).

TiTheRev

Leopard wrote: »

Whatever its intent, it was indeed offensive and it gave offence.

Nor was it remotely witty.



The simple way to discover whether it is your Mac's internal hard drive that is faulty is to boot it off an external Firewire drive and see whether it stays stable while running off that.

I have explained this to you already.

It sounds more like a motherboard fault (including any hard-wired RAM) but it could just be a loose or faulty connection with either your additional RAM or your internal hard drive. Check those.

Where, and how far away, is your nearest Apple service centre or Apple Retail Store?

If money needs to be spent on it, you have to weigh up whether or not it would be better to invest that in a new (or Apple refurb) Intel Mac, instead. Apple will abandon support for PPC in the forseeable future. It's time to switch to Intel, when an opportune moment to do so arises. This may well be one.

If you flog a defective laptop on eBay without being candid about its condition you are likely to regret the consequences of doing so.

Apologies then as you can tell by my user name I am a man of faith, and it is never an intent to be malicious, cause offence or create any ill feeling, sorry.

My seeming ignorance to your previous advice is probably my lack of understanding coupled with lack of time/money to impliment all the things discussed.

I dont have a firewire drive I can boot my iBook from unfortunately, I too had presumed it was more a motherboard/logic board fault but then the Apple hardware test passed it all ok, twice!? The fault was there before the additional RAM was added so I have assumed that was not an issue, and the HDD is too time consuming/above my technical ability to attempt removal and checking at the moment but will have to go down that route if the easier checks keep coming up blank.

The nearest apple service centre is about 30mins away and will place a phone call if all else fails, but as the website suggests, I am into money saving where possible so will only use it as a last resort.

I would never sell anything on eBay in any way other than honestly.

Leopard

My turn to apologise if you drew any inference that I thought you would be anything other than honest if you sell it. I was simply highlighting the need to be pro-active in declaring any faults a laptop might have unless you sell it "sold-as-seen" (which, in practice, on eBay, usually ends up as being unseen before purchase) for "spares and repairs."

A Firewire external drive is something that every Mac owner should invest in.

Particularly if their Mac is PPC and can't boot off a USB2 drive. And, of course, it can be used with an Intel Mac as well. (Although, obviously, you need to keep an Intel system in a different partition to a PPC system.)

Rather than telephone, it would be far better to get yourself, with your iBook, to an Apple Retail Store and seek free advice at the Genius Bar.