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What recourse do I have against bad landlords

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  • Tozer
    Tozer Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    MissMoneypenny wrote: »
    I think you will find that the law has changed. The tenants can have the LLs address if they request it and it is a criminal offence to withhold it when asked. Shelter have a piece on this but their site is down at the moment so I can't get their quote and link yet.

    I'd be interested to know and stand corrected.
  • Tozer
    Tozer Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    MissMoneypenny wrote: »
    Again, according to Shelter, it would not - unless it was written in the contract that the LL could have a key.

    I suspect that most tenancy agreements would have a provision preventing any modifications without the landlord's express consent.

    Mine does.
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    Tozer wrote: »
    From a lawyers perspective, there has been a breach of contract. However, what is the loss? Nothing financial. Therefore, the damages a court would award are nominal.

    It would come under harassment. It would be dealt with as a police matter.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    moneysavinmonkey wrote: »
    Maybe it differs depending on your local police force but this is exactly what I did.

    There was a thread on here once about a LL complaining that he had a visit form the police after he had been hammering on the door, peering through the letterbox and phoning his tenant.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • Tozer
    Tozer Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    MissMoneypenny wrote: »
    There was a thread on here once about a LL complaining that he had a visit form the police after he had been hammering on the door, peering through the letterbox and phoning his tenant.

    Not quite the same thing as OP though is it? And given all of that, a 'visit' from the Police is hardly worth it.
  • Tozer
    Tozer Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    MissMoneypenny wrote: »
    It would come under harassment. It would be dealt with as a police matter.

    We were talking about the rights of the tenant, not the issues arising under criminal law.
  • Tozer
    Tozer Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    MissMoneypenny wrote: »
    I think you will find that the law has changed. The tenants can have the LLs address if they request it and it is a criminal offence to withhold it when asked. Shelter have a piece on this but their site is down at the moment so I can't get their quote and link yet.

    Just looking at this and what I said IS right. The only requirement in a tenancy agreement is for an address in England and Wales to be provided.

    You are right that there is a right to request the address of the landlord and this has to be provided within 21 days.

    But how would that help in this case when the contractual requirement for service of notices and proceedings is the agent?
  • moneysavinmonkey
    moneysavinmonkey Posts: 1,213 Forumite
    Tozer wrote: »
    We were talking about the rights of the tenant, not the issues arising under criminal law.

    Where the rights of the tenant are protected by law, then it is covered by criminal law.
    A visit from the police would be worth it if they convinced the landlord of the tenants rights.

    Shelter website is playing silly beggars with me too but did manage to get to this page which covers harassment + changing locks + right to landlords address....even if they are using an agent.

    link
    Not disturbing tenants

    You can ask your landlord to stop entering your home without your permission. It may be classed as harassment if s/he persists.

    You may even be able to change the locks if you want to. However, this doesn't apply to:

    ---

    Giving the tenant certain information

    All landlords have to give their tenants their name and a UK contact address. If the property is managed by a letting or property agent, they must also provide you with the landlord's full name and address.
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    Tozer wrote: »
    We were talking about the rights of the tenant, not the issues arising under criminal law.

    The right of the tenant is to call the police, for the LLs harassment. It would not be the tenant taking the LL to court for an award as you seem to be suggesting when you said
    "However, what is the loss? Nothing financial. Therefore, the damages a court would award are nominal."
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • moneysavinmonkey
    moneysavinmonkey Posts: 1,213 Forumite
    just to quote this bit again as what Tozer says is not correct:
    Giving the tenant certain information

    All landlords have to give their tenants their name and a UK contact address. If the property is managed by a letting or property agent, they must also provide you with the landlord's full name and address
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