dog weeing in house during night!! help!!!

I have a 1 year old springer spaniel he has been house trained from near enough when we got him. He sleeps in the consevatory and has a bed & a cage which is left ope for him on a night to wander in and out of. He is took outside between 10.30-11.00 pm and then locked in for rest of the night.
& let out at 7 the next morning. He has always been dry (apart from when he was a puppy) during the night. He has recently been cocking his leg against the blanket box in the conservatory during the night resulting in a big puddle on the floor. He is mine & my dads dog my mum never really wanted him although she does love him she is now saying if he keeps doing it he will have to go. I don't think she means it but it causing a bit of tension. I don't know what else to do. Any ideas????
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  • x_raphael_xx
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    Hmm, maybe you could try making sure he doesnt drink an hour or so before bed?
    Make sure fresh water goes down first thing in the morning thou!

    Other than that can you train him to go on newspaper in a 'safe' corner of the conservatory? My dog is house trained, but I always put paper down when the door is closed just incase.
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  • SPANIEL36
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    as he has already done it once, his scent is there now so will keep on doing it there, kind of marking his territory, are there any other pets in the house?

    maybe a good clean of the area with strong bleach my deter him from doing it again. the no water before bedtime would be worth a try too
  • x_raphael_xx
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    Oh! And just had a thought, maybe it's something to do with the summer creeping up on us now? As it's lighter earlier in the morning, maybe hes waking up earlier? Therefore needing to wee earlier?
    Dogs body clocks aren't ruled by alarms like ours!

    Also my dog did have a period where she seemed to 'forget' her toilet training after learning it, but after a couple of weeks she was back to normal.
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  • LindsayO
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    could be a bladder infection, if so he will be peeing more frequently during the day, worth a trip to the vet maybe

    you could try keeping him in his cage at night to retrain him

    my dogs have gone poo and pee inside when they have been sick, but they have always been really upset about it, like they had done something wrong

    so I'd say if he is not bothered by peeing there, and he is showing no other signs of bladder problems, then its probably a training issue, and he needs to be reminded of his house training
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  • we are thinking of putting him in the outside pen now of a night time especially as its warm now. But he does bark like hell in there so any ideas on that would be appreciated too. He's outside all day in the garden running around but not in his pen when he does go in there he barks like hell. looks like i'l be having a sleepless night!! ahhhhh i don't know what to do for the best!!??
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  • fraz_babe
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    Only thing i can think of is if that you feed your dog around 1 hour before you go bed and let him outside for half hour so he can do his toilet duties and stuff.

    I have a puppy. And we're training him atm, totally different i know, but. One thing we did was, when he weed on the carpet my mum tapped his nose, and rubbed his nose into it and called him a naughty boy. Then later that day as soon as he woke up , he went outside for a wee without the need of us taking him out. So maybe you could do that. Also when he went out on his own, my mum give him a treat and called him a good boy. Maybe you could tap your dogs nose and rub his nose in it, and when he doesnt do it, reward him and call him a good boy ..
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  • x_raphael_xx
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    fraz_babe wrote: »
    and rubbed his nose into it

    :eek: Nooo!!

    Tapping the nose is fine, telling him off in a stern voice is fine, ignoring him for 5 minutes is fine, but not this!!

    It humiliates the dog, and re-enforces the scent of wee in that area! It's also very cruel, you wouldn't do it to your toddler during potty training!

    Also it needs to be done straight away after the mess as dogs only associate the punishment or reward with the very last thing that happened. No good coming home and punishing for mess done hours ago.

    As for the barking you can get anti-bark collars that emit a sonic sound that startles the dog into stopping, I've never tried one myself, but a friend or mine has and said they work quite well.
    You could try telling him to 'be quiet' and giving a treat as soon as he stops?
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  • mk_wotsit
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    I'd shut the cage door. It's unusual for a dog to pee in their own bed. He'd have no option other than to lie down and sleep, which is what you want. 11pm til morning is not too long to be confined IMO.
    I agree with removing the water bowl about 6pm-ish.
    I wouldn't do the nose rubbing thing.I don't think dogs are bright enough to realise what you're punishing them for unless you catch them in the act.
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  • x_raphael_xx
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    mk_wotsit wrote: »
    I'd shut the cage door. It's unusual for a dog to pee in their own bed. He'd have no option other than to lie down and sleep, which is what you want. 11pm til morning is not too long to be confined IMO.

    :doh:Doh! I didn't think of that!! :D Simple, but effective!
    As long as the cage is small enough that he can't pee the other side of it away from his bed that would work. (Of course the cage must be big enough for him to turn around & stretch his legs etc)
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  • Raksha
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    He's probably feeling his hormones - many adolescent dogs go through this sort of phase. Tapping noses, rubbing noses in it etc. won't do anything except teach him that humans can be mean and unpredictable, and don't let them catch wee or puddles in their house (which means dog keeps doing it, but in places where you can't find it........)

    Tensions in the house won't help, although I realise it can become a viscious circle. The best way to clean the area is with biological washing powder solution, let that dry, then spray the area with white or surgical spirit. He should also be checked by the vet for any urinary infection, as the first signs of that can often be inappropriate weeing. You will need to take a urine sample with you, the best way of catching that is to use an old soup ladle.......
    Please forgive me if my comments seem abrupt or my questions have obvious answers, I have a mental health condition which affects my ability to see things as others might.
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