Advice to buy a second car

hewhoisnotintheknow

Inactive wrote: »

If you say so, you are " in the know " . :rolleyes:

well just saying the mechanics at your dealers dont all drive renaults and you saw a new car come back on a trailer doesnt mean a lot

Perhaps it had had the wrong fuel put in or something along those lines. Its hardly going to be going to a bmw dealer as its a new renault.

Dont forget mechanics generally only see car faults once they have got to the stage where they need fixing so they always have doom and gloom stories.

I rate citroen and peugeots as they have been ultra reliable for me

Inactive

hewhoisnotintheknow wrote: »

well just saying the mechanics at your dealers dont all drive renaults and you saw a new car come back on a trailer doesnt mean a lot

I don't recall saying that I saw a Renault come back on a trailer???

I was told by the Garage Workshop Manager that it had just suffered an engine failure, it had covered just 19 miles.

This is not a rare occurance, he assures me.:rolleyes:

Inactive

twokids wrote: »

After the suggestions I had, I've been doing my search.
So far these are my favourites but I have some questions for the experts

1- Mazda6: Very stylish car! Love it! Looking at the ins group and the
engine size(1.8 and over) is it cheap to run?

2- What about Mazda Premacy? Is there anything wrong with it? Low ins group, reasonable size, low mileage and cheap. Too good to be true.

3-Toyota Corolla Verso. Another good one. Any suggestions about engine
size and spec (i.e. T2/T3)

Thanks guys. I'm very grateful of this site for the impartial advise.

All excellent cars, you will not go wrong with any of the 3 options.;)

hewhoisnotintheknow

Inactive wrote: »

I don't recall saying that I saw a Renault come back on a trailer???

I was told by the Garage Workshop Manager that it had just suffered an engine failure, it had covered just 19 miles.

This is not a rare occurance, he assures me.:rolleyes:

ahh when you said a new buyer was seen being transported back to base because of an engine failure i assumed the engine had failed and the car had been returned to the dealer.

Im not going to argue, i have first hand experiance, you appear to only have hear say. Either way i dont really mind, im happy with my car and thats what keeps me happy

AdrianHi

twokids wrote: »

After the suggestions I had, I've been doing my search.
So far these are my favourites but I have some questions for the experts

1- Mazda6: Very stylish car! Love it! Looking at the ins group and the
engine size(1.8 and over) is it cheap to run?

2- What about Mazda Premacy? Is there anything wrong with it? Low ins group, reasonable size, low mileage and cheap. Too good to be true.

3-Toyota Corolla Verso. Another good one. Any suggestions about engine
size and spec (i.e. T2/T3)

Thanks guys. I'm very grateful of this site for the impartial advise.

1. Mazda 6 - 1.8 or 2.0 petrol very little difference in running costs and even purchase costs, so unless the insurance costs are significantly higher you might as well go for the 2.0 which is what we have. If you can find a TS2 in budget you get traction control, on a TS not having the aweful Bridgestone tyres the factory fits helps traction in the wet. On a hatch back watch for the boot struts making a noise, many will have been replaced under warranty. See if you can find out if the power steering hydraulic pipe work has ever been replaced, if not prepare for a £300 bill as this is a known fault, many replaced under warranty. We get about 30,000 miles out of a set of tyres, they all seem to wear out at the same time. £60 each for something decent size is 205/55R16 91V. 12,500 mile service interval, service prices range from £100 to £300 depending on major / minor. We get 35mpg out of the 2.0 petrol but we are on open road driving mostly. Someone else we know with a 1.8 struggles to get 30mpg but they do a lot more town driving.

2. Mazda Premacy - nothing wrong with it, it's just a bit bland in styling so it's not in fashion and therefore cheap. It is more thirsty on fuel than the Mazda 6 with an older engine design.

3. Toyota Corolla Verso - another on our list when we bought the Mazda 6. You need the T Spirit for cruise control which is one of our requirements, at which point it was too expensive for us. The 1.8 petrol engine is surprisingly economical, diesels rare at this age and in high demand. Forget if it had reach and rake adjustment on the steering wheel or not (another of our requirements).

I don't think you will go wrong with any of these, try and test drive all 3 and see which one grabs you.
The Mazda 6 would be my favourite of course, engine note, styling, space, easy fold down seats, comfortable.... we love it.
It is a long car but the front corners are rounded off which makes it easier than you would think to park. The Mazda dealer can fit rear parking sensors which helps a lot.

cyclonebri1

Inactive wrote: »

Based on living near to a Renault Main Dealer and speaking with their fitters regularly, who all drive German or Japanese cars.


One recent sale of a new Scenic @ £20,000 saw the buyer being transported back to base, engine failure.

Also remember who now owns Nissan;)

Nissan use the Renault diesel not vice versa, don't know about the petrol engines

hewhoisnotintheknow

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Also remember who now owns Nissan;)

Nissan use the Renault diesel not vice versa, don't know about the petrol engines

like bmw and psa (citreon and peugeot) sharing development of engines

Ford and volvo using PSA engines. Its amazing how many badge snobs think the badge will make things work better

Had an interesting chat with some clown stating that the toyota aygo will be more reliable than the 107 or c1 as its japanese.....

hewhoisnotintheknow

avoid upsetting love ones for the sake of cash

jaydeeuk1

What about a mazda mx-5? Can always strap the kids to the boot
Anyway, have a looksie at this

http://www.parkers.co.uk/choose/

Honda Jazz seems a pretty good choice...

tomstickland

hewhoisnotintheknow wrote: »

Im not going to argue, i have first hand experiance, you appear to only have hear say. Either way i dont really mind, im happy with my car and thats what keeps me happy

It's nor hearsay, it's the opinion of people who work for a Renault garage.
For what it's worth, I have some "hearsay" too - I know someone who used to work for a Renault garage and he had to do a lot of warranty jobs on gearboxes.