Advice to buy a second car

hewhoisnotintheknow

tomstickland wrote: »

It's nor hearsay, it's the opinion of people who work for a Renault garage.
For what it's worth, I have some "hearsay" too - I know someone who used to work for a Renault garage and he had to do a lot of warranty jobs on gearboxes.

Do mechanics in volvo car dealers just sit around all day with nothing to do as their cars are so reliable?

if you go into any dealer whatever the brand is they will all tell you horror stories

hewhoisnotintheknow

and infact renault gear boxes are used by many different manufacturers

AdrianHi

hewhoisnotintheknow wrote: »

like bmw and psa (citreon and peugeot) sharing development of engines

Only on 1.4 to 1.6 petrol engines which go into a Mini.
The relationship is also described as Peugeot using BMW sourced engines.
BMW 4 cylinder petrol engines are made in the UK.
http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/bmw/citroen-to-use-bmw-engines/

hewhoisnotintheknow

AdrianHi wrote: »

Only on 1.4 to 1.6 petrol engines which go into a Mini.
The relationship is also described as Peugeot using BMW sourced engines.
BMW 4 cylinder petrol engines are made in the UK.
http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/bmw/citroen-to-use-bmw-engines/

or from another source... psa making the parts, shipping them to the uk for bmw to put it all together

joint r&d costs

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/01/bmw_and_psa_peu.html

i believe the engines are 207's as well

AdrianHi

hewhoisnotintheknow wrote: »

and infact renault gear boxes are used by many different manufacturers

ZF and Gertrag (possibly others) are the big gearbox suppliers who have been supplying everyone from Renault to BMW to Jaguar for a long time. I'm not sure that any car maker actually makes their own gearbox though they may collaborate with a supplier for new developments and specific cars.
Bosch and Siemens are big in engine control units and other control systems like Dynamics Stability Control supplying to most European manufacturers and others.

hewhoisnotintheknow

AdrianHi wrote: »

ZF and Gertrag (possibly others) are the big gearbox suppliers who have been supplying everyone from Renault to BMW to Jaguar for a long time. I'm not sure that any car maker actually makes their own gearbox though they may collaborate with a supplier for new developments and specific cars.
Bosch and Siemens are big in engine control units and other control systems like Dynamics Stability Control supplying to most European manufacturers and others.

yes, i wasnt clear, i meant that the gearbox that is found on renaults for example is acutally found on lots of other random cars

so saying renualt gearboxes are rubbish doesnt really mean much

Inactive

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Also remember who now owns Nissan;)

Nissan use the Renault diesel not vice versa, don't know about the petrol engines

Yes, I agree, a brand that was once highly reliable, now ruined by it's new owner..:mad:

Night-owl_6

I just want to say, looka round.
I recently brought a new car, cost alot more than I wanted to pay and then I found out someone was selling a Bmw M3 smg Coupe with Sat Nav, a Tv, glass S Roof Alloys and it was automatic, how much I hear you ask?!
£1.000 with 3 months tax and a brand new MOT, I was pretty ****** off at it to say the least!

cyclonebri1

Inactive wrote: »

Yes, I agree, a brand that was once highly reliable, now ruined by it's new owner..:mad:

Opinions are like !!!!!!, we all have one. The difference is some have learnt not to talk out of theirs.:rolleyes:

Inactive

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Opinions are like !!!!!!, we all have one. The difference is some have learnt not to talk out of theirs.:rolleyes:

Good advice, which you should strictly adhere to.;)