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When being a cash buyer isn't all it's cracked up to be....

We made an offer on a house last week. It was on at £365000, had been for 8 months and we offered £310000 cash, assuming that, in this market, that would give us an advantage when it came to negotiating.

They said no and told the agent they would take £355000. We told the agent that was too much and carried on looking at others.

The agent rang us today, on behalf of the sellers, to see if we were going to buy the house. I said no and explained that we felt that £355000 was too high compared with others we had seen.

They said o.k. and that they would get back to the sellers.

Half an hour later we get another call from the agents. The sellers are apparently a bit niffed that we want them to reduce the price further.

They don't see why they should have to because "if we can afford a cash offer of £310000 then we wouldn't have any problem paying the full asking price - even if we have to take out a mortgage it won't be much"

Someone is missing the point here I think.:rotfl:
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  • Yup, obviously. At this point, you can probably to take out a mortgage of another £930,000 and pay them £1,240,000 for it. ;) Since you can put down a 25% deposit. :P
  • MarkyMarkD
    MarkyMarkD Posts: 9,913 Forumite
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    I think, OP, that you are missing the point.

    It's fair enough to make a cheeky offer way below the asking price.

    But if the seller comes down £10k, it's your turn to make a more sensible offer, not to tell them to reduce their price further.
  • mr.broderick
    mr.broderick Posts: 3,778 Forumite
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    We made an offer on a house last week. It was on at £365000, had been for 8 months and we offered £310000 cash, assuming that, in this market, that would give us an advantage when it came to negotiating.

    They said no and told the agent they would take £355000. We told the agent that was too much and carried on looking at others.

    The agent rang us today, on behalf of the sellers, to see if we were going to buy the house. I said no and explained that we felt that £355000 was too high compared with others we had seen.

    They said o.k. and that they would get back to the sellers.

    Half an hour later we get another call from the agents. The sellers are apparently a bit niffed that we want them to reduce the price further.

    They don't see why they should have to because "if we can afford a cash offer of £310000 then we wouldn't have any problem paying the full asking price - even if we have to take out a mortgage it won't be much"

    Someone is missing the point here I think.:rotfl:


    Wow the saga continues (continues continues).....:confused:
  • m00m00
    m00m00 Posts: 1,755 Forumite
    I think merlin you are going to need a probate seller or a highly motivated seller to see sense in the market at the moment

    too many people have blinkers on and think the current situation is a temporary blip

    why should the OP make a 'more sensible offer' the offer he has made is very sensible in the current market.
    It's a health benefit ...
  • tr3mor
    tr3mor Posts: 2,325 Forumite
    MarkyMarkD wrote: »
    I think, OP, that you are missing the point.

    It's fair enough to make a cheeky offer way below the asking price.

    But if the seller comes down £10k, it's your turn to make a more sensible offer, not to tell them to reduce their price further.

    Yep. That's the timid British way of haggling.

    Offer them £280k and tell them you'll still be around in 6 months!

    :money:
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    £355k. 10% down that'd be:

    over £2000 per month every month to repay that at 6%... Jesus... don't break a leg!
    http://www.tigertom.co.uk/ttcalc/mortgage.php?loan=355000&downpayment_percent=10&year=25&interest_rate=6&currency=%A3&amortization=on&periodicity=12&action=Calculate

    So it would end up costing: £617,562.89
  • MarkyMarkD
    MarkyMarkD Posts: 9,913 Forumite
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    tr3mor wrote: »
    Yep. That's the timid British way of haggling.

    Offer them £280k and tell them you'll still be around in 6 months!

    :money:
    If the OP wants to simply refuse to pay more, that's their prerogative. But the seller hasn't reduced their price in 8 months, so they probably aren't willing to take a silly offer.
  • PasturesNew
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    I'd tell the agent that the reason I am a cash buyer is .... I am unmortgageable. They can't argue the toss if you say that.

    Let them know that's it. The pot's empty ... no more money where that's come from.
  • Oliveru
    Oliveru Posts: 63 Forumite
    MarkyMarkD wrote: »
    If the OP wants to simply refuse to pay more, that's their prerogative. But the seller hasn't reduced their price in 8 months, so they probably aren't willing to take a silly offer.

    In a crashing market today's silly offer is tommorrow's sensible offer.That is to say, a smart seller would be willing to go a lot lower depending on how many views their property is getting.
  • WTF?_2
    WTF?_2 Posts: 4,592 Forumite
    Don't worry. Just keep renting, watch your cash pile grow and prices decline. Slowly at first, then faster as the reality (and panic) set in.

    You are in a great position, just a little more patience..... :cool:
    --
    Every pound less borrowed (to buy a house) is more than two pounds less to repay and more than three pounds less to earn, over the course of a typical mortgage.
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