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When being a cash buyer isn't all it's cracked up to be....

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  • Zammo
    Zammo Posts: 724 Forumite
    MarkyMarkD wrote: »
    I think, OP, that you are missing the point.

    It's fair enough to make a cheeky offer way below the asking price.

    But if the seller comes down £10k, it's your turn to make a more sensible offer, not to tell them to reduce their price further.

    Why the hell should he increase his price?

    We've had years of sellers refusing to budge on price and only accepting "offers over".

    The shoe is on the other foot now.

    Deal with it.
  • tradetime
    tradetime Posts: 3,200 Forumite
    MarkyMarkD wrote: »
    I think, OP, that you are missing the point.

    It's fair enough to make a cheeky offer way below the asking price.

    But if the seller comes down £10k, it's your turn to make a more sensible offer, not to tell them to reduce their price further.

    I think that rather depends on whether the OP thinks their offer was cheeky, or whether they think the asking price was cheeky. If they feel their offer was perfectly sensible in the first place then there is no need to make a "more sensible" offer.
    We have entered a buyers market, sellers have not come to terms with this yet, but they will.

    There are three values to everything
    1) What the owner / seller thinks it's worth.
    2) What the market thinks it's worth.
    3) What any potential buyer thinks it's worth.

    Currently number 3 are adjusting down, possibly a little too enthusiastically, but only time will tell that.
    Number 2 are begrudgingly beginning to adjust down, because lets face it they have a duty to the client to get best price they can, but also a vested interest as they are in for a percentage.
    Number 1 on the other hand are just beginning to realise that an adjustment is needed.
    Hope for the best.....Plan for the worst!

    "Never in the history of the world has there been a situation so bad that the government can't make it worse." Unknown
  • pickles110564
    pickles110564 Posts: 2,374 Forumite
    Zammo wrote: »
    Why the hell should he increase his price?

    We've had years of sellers refusing to budge on price and even only accepting "offers over".

    The shoe is on the other foot now.

    Deal with it.
    You really must start realising that the seller still has the final say on the price.
    If they dont want to budge on the price then you wont get to buy.
    So you lot could end up renting still for years to come.
  • pickles110564
    pickles110564 Posts: 2,374 Forumite
    Davesnave wrote: »
    As a seller, I'm looking to negotiate now. My reasoning goes something like this:
    Nationwide figures for May were !!!!, denting confidence
    Consumer confidence already at record low
    Fuel price hikes are impending
    Inflation is up
    Repossessions are climbing
    The summer hols are looming - dead season for sellers
    Recent drops are more pronounced than in the early 90s and accelerating
    The government looks wobbly, especially Crash Gordon
    Even the Council of Mortgage Lenders expects no real improvement in available loan money until Christmas
    There is the chance of an 'unknown,' like Northern Wreck

    I've just received a rather disappointing offer; not quite as low as Merlin's on the original post, but low. I'm still getting viewings & might better it.......

    The question is, 'Do I feel lucky?'

    I think I'm going to accept it!

    If you had somewhere to sell you could accept it.;)
  • pickles110564
    pickles110564 Posts: 2,374 Forumite
    tara747 wrote: »
    Ehhhh?????

    The sense of entitlement of sellers is astonishing!!!

    :confused:

    Dont you mean those buyers living in cloud cuckoo land.
    Why are they entitled to think they can force a seller into a sale?
  • tr3mor
    tr3mor Posts: 2,325 Forumite
    You really must start realising that the seller still has the final say on the price.
    If they dont want to budge on the price then you wont get to buy.
    So you lot could end up renting still for years to come.

    And the seller could be living in a house that they don't want for years to come!

    At least you can just walk away at the end of a tenancy.
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    If you had somewhere to sell you could accept it.;)

    Sorry, don't see where you're coming from here. What makes you think I don't?
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    On the sellers forum that I read, two sellers had offers and asked to think about it overnight. The following day when they went back, the offers had been withdrawn. I assume buyers are multi offering?
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • pickles110564
    pickles110564 Posts: 2,374 Forumite
    tr3mor wrote: »
    And the seller could be living in a house that they don't want for years to come!

    At least you can just walk away at the end of a tenancy.
    Why would anyone buy a house that they dont want? That would be a pointless expensive excercise.
  • pickles110564
    pickles110564 Posts: 2,374 Forumite
    Davesnave wrote: »
    Sorry, don't see where you're coming from here. What makes you think I don't?
    The way you have written the post, it is like you are trying to convince sellers that they should accept stupid offers
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