Guide price for moving a stud wall?

Peter-Pan_5

Up here in Scotland, dunno about the rest of the UK,but the rules changed

on the 1 st May,you do not need permission to take down a stud partion

wall. I enquired and was advised to wait `til the 1st May,we did and wall is

now down,no permission,no problems.

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http://www.diynot.com/

robv_3

Filthy_Luka wrote:

but thats not accurate.

if you make a structural alteration then a building regs application is need

Hmm. Agree with the second part but as all wall are not structural some brick/block and stud walls can be removed without permission.

The local BCO who came out last week to inspect our latest job agreed with me. After telling him that a wall was coming down his comment was....'is that structural? ....No....fine....bye...'

Filthy_Luka

robv wrote:

Hmm. Agree with the second part but as all wall are not structural some brick/block and stud walls can be removed without permission.

The local BCO who came out last week to inspect our latest job agreed with me. After telling him that a wall was coming down his comment was....'is that structural? ....No....fine....bye...'

I agree that the taking down of a non-loadbearing studwall does not affect the structure (but it can have other implications e.g means of escape).

But taking down a non-loadbearing stud wall is not the same as taking down and re-constructing a non-loadbearing studwall in a different location as aliasojo is intending to do.

Call your BCO and ask about support to the newly positioned stud wall for their opinion.


aliasojo, the scottish regulations are different to those in england and wales but i dont know the scottish regs at all so i dont know how different they are. I would find it hard to believe that the structural regulations vary much though.

Also are you sure that the studwall is nonloadbearing? - just because its timber doesnt mean its non-loadbearing.

Check if it has any ply boards or similar fixed to it beneath the plaster - that may indicatie that its a loadbearing wall. also check if there is any loads coming down from the roof htat it could be supporting

aliasojo

Filthy_Luka wrote:

But taking down a non-loadbearing stud wall is not the same as taking down and re-constructing a non-loadbearing studwall in a different location as aliasojo is intending to do.

Just wanted to clarify....existing wall is here (dotted line):

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Above is where new wall would be (solid line)...same location, literally only 'pushed' a few inches back a bit.

Call your BCO and ask about support to the newly positioned stud wall for their opinion.

Also are you sure that the studwall is nonloadbearing? - just because its timber doesnt mean its non-loadbearing.

Check if it has any ply boards or similar fixed to it beneath the plaster - that may indicatie that its a loadbearing wall. also check if there is any loads coming down from the roof htat it could be supporting

No, I'm not sure. Definately no ply...just 12.5mm plasterboard nailed to 3" x 2" timber frame. No plaster on top, no insulation inside, just very basic.

In fact the existing timber footplate isn't even fully resting on the floor, the nails seem to be holding it. I believe that's because these type of walls were constructed lying down, then raised in one piece so the framing had to be made slightly smaller than required to allow for hauling it upright?

Attic above is typical 'A' frame, no framing or walls above wall I wanted to move, but the attic floor joists do run the opposite way to the wall underneath so I assumed that meant it was load bearing.

robv_3

Its impossible to tell if the wall is load bearing without looking at it and even then still can get it wrong of the original builder did something 'interesting'. When removing the wall you should find anything 'special'. Ever 3x2 frames can be load bearing, just no way to tell from the construction. Phone your BCO and tell them your going to remove the wall and ask if you need to notify them. If your lucky they will come out.

The quickest way to build the wall is on the floor and push it into place. I always us packers to wedge the frame into place (not to tight) but if your getting paid per meter whenever is quickest. A wall can be placed on the floor boards without a support under if its not load bearing.