Fed up of shill bidders!

biblejohn

Tojo_Ralph wrote:

Having already ascertained that you are happy to get shafted, the question was posed for chucky who has accepted they would not be happy if ripped off to the tune of £16,000 whilst also implying they would be happy to get stiffed for lesser sums.

Fair enough, but my point is that im not being shafted over anything.

Tojo_Ralph

biblejohn wrote:

Err, they got the item for less than they were prepared to pay! So surely its a bargin. Its irrelevant how much someone else was prepared to pay for the same item!

By the same logic, if a person is willing to pay whatever it takes, (lets say £100,000), to get on a flight back to the UK to be at the bedside of their critically ill child, and they are only charged a mere £99,999 ........ we deduce they got one of "them thar bargins". :rolleyes:

Tojo_Ralph

biblejohn wrote:

Fair enough, but my point is that im not being shafted over anything.

well.... In my world.... If I pay 1% less than I am willing to pay, whilst at the same time paying TWICE as much as I need to pay.... I deduce I've been stiffed.

biblejohn

Tojo_Ralph wrote:

By the same logic, if a person is willing to pay whatever it takes, (lets say £100,000), to get on a flight back to the UK to be at the bedside of their critically ill child, and they are only charged a mere £99,999 ........ we deduce they got one of "them thar bargins". :rolleyes:

If its less than they were prepared to pay then yes.

The only way they would be ripped off is if they bid/payed a rediculously too high price for an item without doing some basic checking to see what the normal going market rate for the item was. - in which case they deserve to be ripped off.

Tojo_Ralph

biblejohn wrote:

If its less than they were prepared to pay then yes.

The only way they would be ripped off is if they bid/payed a rediculously too high price for an item without doing some basic checking to see what the normal going market rate for the item was. - in which case they deserve to be ripped off.

Well, you cannot have it both ways.

Lets say that the market rate for the ticket was £200 or even less given that the seat was going begging and nobody else was going to take it, would you not agree that whilst they were willing to pay £100,000..... having to pay £99,999 was perhaps as you say, Ridiculously high?

skim

biblejohn wrote:

If its less than they were prepared to pay then yes.

The only way they would be ripped off is if they bid/payed a rediculously too high price for an item without doing some basic checking to see what the normal going market rate for the item was. - in which case they deserve to be ripped off.

You are contridicting yourself here - the item I bidded on was for £5 - no one else bid so the market rate is £5 - it is only the seller that is shoving the price up to £15.

Like I said earlier - if he didn't want to sell it for £5 then either start the auction at £15 or set the reserve at £15.

Let me know what sort of things you buy & I'll put a few on ebay

biblejohn

Tojo_Ralph wrote:

Well, you cannot have it both ways.

Lets say that the market rate for the ticket was £200 or even less given that the seat was going begging and nobody else was going to take it, would you not agree that whilst they were willing to pay £100,000..... having to pay £99,999 was perhaps as you say, Ridiculously high?

If they were *willing* to pay the £100,000 for a ticket they could buy for £200 then they are very very stupid! Noone in their right mind would bid £100k for a £200 ticket unless they pressed the 0 key too many times by accident!

skim

BTW I forgot to add I did not buy the item in the end - He eamiled me & I told him that he'd been shill bidding & surprise, surpise his other id was selling the same item a day later.

biblejohn

skim wrote:

You are contridicting yourself here - the item I bidded on was for £5 - no one else bid so the market rate is £5 - it is only the seller that is shoving the price up to £15.

Like I said earlier - if he didn't want to sell it for £5 then either start the auction at £15 or set the reserve at £15.

Let me know what sort of things you buy & I'll put a few on ebay

I havent contridicted myself at all. Why an earth did you bid £15 if the market rate was £5. Why not just bid £6?

The market rate is the price people are prepared/willing to pay for an item.

skim

biblejohn wrote:

I havent contridicted myself at all. Why an earth did you bid £15 if the market rate was £5. Why not just bid £6?

The market rate is the price people are prepared/willing to pay for an item.

As I said earlier - to ensure I got the item - I was going away for a few days & wasn't around to bid at the end of the auction.

The fact is that shill bidding is against the rules - are you therefore saying that the seller is in the right breaking the rules - when anyone signs up to ebay they agree to abide ny the rules.

Let me know your ebay name & I'll make sure I don't buy anything off you for sure.