Speeding ticket on Pool car - advice please

headpin

klint wrote: »

Could it be as simple as asking the staff in a friendly voice "Has anyone been flashed by a speed camera recently?" Or would that be too naive? If the culprit doesn't own up to his transgression, is he trustworthy enough for continued employment?

This is a sexist comment in that you are implying that it was a male who has commited the offence!! Where is that suggested anywhere? And, in any case, if they do not own up how will you know who to “sack” as being not trustworthy?

Basically the Notice of Intended Prosecution will have been sent to the Registered Keeper of the Vehicle as named on the V5. They then need to return the form saying who the driver was. If you or they do not know they should say so and not just make assumptions. It is then probable that they will be “invited8 to think again and then perhaps summonsed to attend Court to explain their situation. If the Magistrate is convinced by the argument they will drop the case as having insufficient evidence, otherwise the Registered Keeper will get clobbered.

If this is a company car then it is expected that a proper record is maintained of who was driving and when. It then covers these very situations. It may well be that whther or not the Magistrate is convinced then your OH 'semployer may see that he has not discharged his managerial function as would be expected of a competent person and he is subject to disciplinary procedures accordingly.

My advice would be that your OH immediately implements a recording system of who has been authorised to use the car and when it is taken and returned. He should keep the keys and only issue them to whoever he has authorised and recorded as using the car.

klint

headpin wrote: »

This is a sexist comment in that you are implying that it was a male who has commited the offence!!

Not sexist, just pure lazy. Writing "he/she" or "she/he" uses up 6 key presses. "she" uses up three. But "he", only two. I was using the non-gender-specific variant meaning of "he."

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers!

The company should keep a log of who was driving. Magistrates take a dim view of companies that don't.

It is the responsibility of the company secretary to ensure this happens, since it is that person who may end up getting the points.

Conor_3

headpin wrote: »

This is a sexist comment in that you are implying that it was a male who has commited the offence!!

I see the Hoxton Thought Police are out again.:rolleyes:

Not to worry. Come the revolution, you and your moronic politically correct mates will be the first to be lined up against a wall and shot closely followed by Social Workers who seem more intent with the letter of the law rather than the spirit of it.

SPANIEL36

keep us updated OP

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Conor wrote: »

I see the Hoxton Thought Police are out again.:rolleyes:

Not to worry. Come the revolution, you and your moronic politically correct mates will be the first to be lined up against a wall and shot closely followed by Social Workers who seem more intent with the letter of the law rather than the spirit of it.

Nothing to do with being PC. It seems as if that chip on your shoulder still needs some ketchup on it!!! You really do have a problem that needs to have some treatment.

I Just object to someone assuming that it was a male who was guilty of this potential offence, that's all. Just because someone says a comment was sexist does not mean it is a PC issue. You seem to have become blinkered to anything else by always spoiling for something that's not there.

Mark7799

Can your OH provide evidence he was elsewhere (to take him out of the frame) e.g a debit card transaction or an e-mail record which would confirm he couldn't be in two places at once (assuming the photo is inconclusive)?

crank_girl

headpin wrote: »

Nothing to do with being PC. It seems as if that chip on your shoulder still needs some ketchup on it!!! You really do have a problem that needs to have some treatment.

I Just object to someone assuming that it was a male who was guilty of this potential offence, that's all. Just because someone says a comment was sexist does not mean it is a PC issue. You seem to have become blinkered to anything else by always spoiling for something that's not there.

He can be used as a personal pronoun to refer to a person who is male or as an indefinite pronoun to refer to anyone.

headpin

crank_girl wrote: »

He can be used as a personal pronoun to refer to a person who is male or as an indefinite pronoun to refer to anyone.

I'm not too clear what you are trying to explain here?

The pronoun “He” is the 3rd persom singular masculine subject pronoun, where “him” is the 3rd persom singular masculine object pronoun. The plural is “they and “them” respectively.

The 3rd person singular neutral pronouns are “it” for both subject and object and “they” and “them” respectively for the plural.

That may be what you were trying to explain and if so I apologise for egg sucking!!!

You appear to have edited your post.

The use of an Indfinite pronoun is when you do not know or do not need to say precisely who or what your are referring to. “He” on its own would not fall in to this category. Correctly it would need to be used with “or” and “she” or the undefined version such as “somebody”, “someone”, etc. should be used.

crank_girl

headpin wrote: »

I'm not too clear what you are trying to explain here?

I was simply suggesting that the use of he was not sexist in the post above since it can refer specifically to men or to anyone irrespective of gender.