Council moves chavs into £200k new builds

scorpio_princess

Lyndsay_21 wrote: »

i must obviously put my hand up to being 'chav' housing association scum!!! When we first moved into our HA place my OH was nothing but a lowly barman/chef how 'chav' are we lol. then he lost his job and we where (gasp) on benefits and i will admit it took my OH 6 months to find a job. this was 4yrs ago.

He started off on a rubbish salary 12k a year but it was a job with good career opportunities now 4 yrs on he has doubled his salary and more yet we still cannot afford to buy a house in the area we live in with house prices starting at £170k for even 2 bed places. We live on a 1950's council housing estate where now half of properties are owned outright and the rest are still HA.
all of my friends apart from 1 live on our estate and all have good careers and certainly dont have burnt out cars etc near them. in fact the 1 friend who owns there home is more chavvy than the rest with her children aiming to own vans and be !!!!!!!!!

It does annoy me when everyone in social housing is tarred with the same brush maybe if house prices where lower then more people could afford to buy, plus even when we can afford to buy i will be staying on my 'council' estate as we have good local shops, local to town and a good sense of community and all my chav scum friend are here obv too.

Your post reminded me of something that always made me laugh - I grew up on a council estate, which used to be a nice place to live until the late 80s (lots of gypos and people who have no regard for their environment or anyone in it), both parents worked (in fact, my dad had about one day off sick in 5 years!). Anyway, my parents had the drive and foresight to take a gamble and start their own courier business (and this was in the middle of the last recession!), they did very well for themselves and when I was 13, they'd built up enough funds to move me and my 2 younger sisters out of what was fast becoming an area akin to a bad day in Beirut. So, we moved a few miles up the road to a 'nice' area - leafy streets, doctors, teachers and accountants living nearby, blah blah. A few years later, my youngest sister went to the local school, which was deemed to be infinitely better than the one me and the middle sister went to. I'll never forget when sister came home and said 'what are those tokens you get to have a free lunch, I want one!'. Yep, you've guessed it - FAR more kids claiming free school dinners than anything we'd seen at our 'rough' school!

So you see, just goes to show that all manner of things can be going on behind closed doors. Just because an area doesn't have mattresses and fridges in front gardens, doesn't mean the residents are all that different from 'council estate scum'!!

There's always going to be 2 types of people in society - those that work hard, look after their families, respect other people and their environment, and those that wouldn't even know the meaning of the word 'pride'. This will never change. The only difference is the latter are now scattered among the 'nice' areas (which I believe was the government's answer to preventing ghettoisation). I think what people need to remember is this: don't judge a book by its cover - generalisations don't help anyone or anything (but is a typical human trait to pigeon hole everyone and everything - makes it easier to judge doesn't it ) Another big cliche coming, but this is for all those people looking down on others less fortunate than themselves - PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T THROW STONES!! There's plenty of homeless people that used to be wealthy i'm sure - you really never can tell when you might fall upon hard times, so don't be so sure you're immune.

Oh and one more comment about the 'nice' area we moved to - the neighbours were insufferable snobs!!! Our immediate next door neighbour kept a German sheppard dog which she never ever took for a walk, or even seemed to give a damn about, but yet deemed us the scum of the earth because a)we came from a council estate and b)my dad *shock horror* HAD A VAN!! Actually, he had quite a few vans (as that is his business), and sometimes he liked to fill the large driveway and landscaped front garden with them, just to pi$$ her off!! Oh how I laughed when we my parents sold up and moved last year, just before Tesco built the most enormous superstore right on the doorstep!! That's retribution for you

BobProperty

olly300 wrote: »

.... I knew former UMIST students who had no problems getting jobs and they had thirds.....

Totally off topic but....:wave:

monkeybutler_2

@Benefits Blagger

Dude, seriously- get a job, you'll feel much better for it. Alternatively quit being snobby about other people who maybe didn't achieve the dizzying heights of a third from Imperial and an unspecified Masters, but who somehow still manage to find careers up and down the country. When you're job hunting you expect it to be a long search, get over yourself and be persistant. Work on your interview technique. When I interview people for a job their personality and general social skills are every bit as important as their qualifications, and are usually the deciding factor. If you have been turned down for many positions may I suggest you sit down and reappraise how you come accross.

Finally, have you any actual proof that the following statement is true:
"plus they had the added advantage of taking them much more recently than i did and hence had much easier exams."?
Sounds to me like more delusional, selfpittying drivel, which is pretty much what I expect from your posts, when you aren't being genuinely nasty of course.

lindseykim13

Peter101 wrote: »

What a pleasant response! Type of response I would expect from a Chav.

Hmm i'm guessing now that anyone lower than your standards is a chav? since when did married working mothers come under the chav section or society?

I'd still rather be a kind and considerate chav than a narrow minded as*hole:rotfl:and i own a nice car!

Lotus-eater

Maybe they do have taste and maybe the rest of us don't? Perspective

SingleSue

Peter101 wrote: »

A Chav (Council House And Violent) Usually has no taste, but thinks they do. Wear soveregn rings, usually the male version has both ears pierced. Tracksuit bottoms and a sweatshirt with 'Tommy Hilfiger' or 'Giorgio' printed in big letters across the front. Skanky white trainers, a thick gold plated necklace. They also drive crappy cars pimped up with bean can exhausts, stupid spoilers, drive everywhere at top speed.
But then again a new breed of chav seem to have emerged over the last few years.(Rich chavs) i.e. Kerry catona, Jordan, Beckhams (as mentioned by another poster). Also Mickey Carol the king of Chavs (lottery winner). So it appears nowadays finances are not related.

A Chav is a very elite group, you usually cannot become one, you are born into chavdom, usually passed on by your parents.

Phew it's official.... I am not a chav!

I do not own a tracksuit, white trainers, rings of any description (all sold when the divorce came though and they were nice dainty ones anyway) or a good plated necklace.
I drive like a boring person (stick to the speed limit or under depending on road and weather conditions) and have never added spoilers, go faster stripes or silly exhausts that sound like a boom boom as they go past...mind you I do drive a pretty crappy car (Vauxhall Astra estate diesel) but needs must when you have a family and car seats to fit in. :rotfl:

lindseykim13

well i'm not a chav then and wasn't born into chavdom as my parents own their house and are fairly stuck up lol.
I still live in a council house though because i'm poor (don't tell my neighbours, they all own!)

thriftybabe

Peter101 I must say I had a look at your link to a house. I presume it is yours? I was a little disappointed in it to say the least as according to a lot of your posts I did not think you would lower yourself to stay in a semi-detached. I mean they do not have many houses like that in the "posh" (sorry not the correct term to use) I mean "affluent" area I reside in. One would not have expected you to stay in a semi with you being a snob!!

Gonzo

monkeybutler wrote: »

@Benefits Blagger

Dude, seriously- get a job, you'll feel much better for it. Alternatively quit being snobby about other people who maybe didn't achieve the dizzying heights of a third from Imperial and an unspecified Masters, but who somehow still manage to find careers up and down the country. When you're job hunting you expect it to be a long search, get over yourself and be persistant. Work on your interview technique. When I interview people for a job their personality and general social skills are every bit as important as their qualifications, and are usually the deciding factor. If you have been turned down for many positions may I suggest you sit down and reappraise how you come accross.

Finally, have you any actual proof that the following statement is true:
"plus they had the added advantage of taking them much more recently than i did and hence had much easier exams."?
Sounds to me like more delusional, selfpittying drivel, which is pretty much what I expect from your posts, when you aren't being genuinely nasty of course.

I think from all the replies I've read over the last few weeks that the opinion is unanimous:

Get off your backside and apply for jobs that you have a chance of getting!

I have only very average qualifications, due to my love of beer, sport and women at Uni (sorry, ex-poly). But I did manage to get a job. Sadly Saatchi & Saatchi weren't hiring my caliber of graduate, so I looked a bit lower on the scale of life. I earn enough to live a reasonably comfortable life and don't feel the need to spend all day on forums moaning about how unfair life is.

I have to say, the longer you leave it, the less employable you'll be. And what a waste of a life that would be. Just get a grip and go for it. You might find you become a much more cheerful and useful member of society. You never know. What exactly do you have to lose? (Apart from the council house we pay for, obviously...);)

simcla

Anyway role on the recession/depression and the media studies students who are manning our call centres will soon return to their natural place in society, i.e. serving me my coffee.[/quote]


BB, Are you paying for the coffee with your benefits? After sucking the rest of us dry with not working and undertaking education at the public's expense (or possibly your parents) maybe its your that should be serving the coffee, at least then you would be paying some tax instead? Someone with a degree in a subject that you obviously so despise but who is actually doing a job, any job, is less of a "chav" in my eyes. The world doesn't owe you a living.... ps i don't have a degree in media studies or work in a call centre