Council moves chavs into £200k new builds

Kat_9Lives

Sue don't lose the faith, you will get there. I'm sure your IT course will make you feel more like your in the land of the living again, that bit closer to work. If your kids are quite young and likely to need collection etc that would put employers off perhaps you could consider Higher Ed? From personal experience they don't tend to crack up if you have to leave to collect a child with dropsy.

I did that, rolled on for a few years (5 years to be exact) and got a degree (1st) from an inferior Uni (Benefits Blagger pls note the next part) I've not been out of work since and I can't tell you how happy that's made me!

I don't have the worry of collecting sick kids now (how time flies) and some day you'll be in the same position just hang in there.

SingleSue

Lol yep...hence my sig!

Kat_9Lives

Now you mention it yes! :rotfl:

jamescredmond

Peter101 wrote: »

Ok, Ok, I was trying to wind up a bit.

But all the same, I would rather live amongst people similar to me. As would anyone. I dont claim to be better than anyone else. Each to their own.

I fully understand that not all people on benefits are scroungers. Some people really struggle to get on through no fault of their own.

The type of people I detest are the 'Shameless' type. The type of people with no self respect, nor respect for others.

winding up people in singlesue's position is a bit gratuitous, isn't it?

I'm in agreement with you re chavs, though.

there's enough of the socialist left in me that approves of a welfare system, but I've been highly irritated in the past by the behaviour of the chav element which undermines the principles that underpin a welfare state.

worse still, these people abuse a benefits system with finite resources to the detriment of genuine claimants like singlesue.

thankfully, though, these people remain in a small minority.

but in a way I feel sorry for them.

no aspirations. no self-respect, no feelings of self-fulfillment. they're missing out and prob. don't even know it.

WTF?_2

I don't know why everyone is associating being unemployed with being a chav.

To me, the word chav is used to describe a certain sort of behaviour and attitude. Not employment status or where you stand in the class system.

There are lots of chavs out there with decent jobs and plenty of money. Just no taste or sense of consideration for others.

Lyndsay_21

i must obviously put my hand up to being 'chav' housing association scum!!! When we first moved into our HA place my OH was nothing but a lowly barman/chef how 'chav' are we lol. then he lost his job and we where (gasp) on benefits and i will admit it took my OH 6 months to find a job. this was 4yrs ago.

He started off on a rubbish salary 12k a year but it was a job with good career opportunities now 4 yrs on he has doubled his salary and more yet we still cannot afford to buy a house in the area we live in with house prices starting at £170k for even 2 bed places. We live on a 1950's council housing estate where now half of properties are owned outright and the rest are still HA.
all of my friends apart from 1 live on our estate and all have good careers and certainly dont have burnt out cars etc near them. in fact the 1 friend who owns there home is more chavvy than the rest with her children aiming to own vans and be !!!!!!!!!

It does annoy me when everyone in social housing is tarred with the same brush maybe if house prices where lower then more people could afford to buy, plus even when we can afford to buy i will be staying on my 'council' estate as we have good local shops, local to town and a good sense of community and all my chav scum friend are here obv too.

olly300

@BenefitsBlagger
Your 3rd hasn't cost you anything however your attitude has cost you a lot.

If you had gone to the likes of Salford, Brunel, Teeside , etc you would have had the work ethic instilled in you as lots of their scientific, technology and engineering courses make you do an intern ship as part of the course. In fact your first job could have come from the company you spend your summers or year out working with.

Even if it hadn't, while larger well-known employers may not have wanted you because of your third those that are less well known in the UK but better known worldwide, or smaller employers would have had no problem employing you. I knew former UMIST students who had no problems getting jobs and they had thirds.

BTW Salford and Brunel are not ex-polys. They are small universities established in the 60's.

I've worked with intern students from ex-polys (and one university) and they have been some of the nicest and most helpful people ever to work with, even when they have been given the most uninteresting and tedious work to do.

If you do something like Fine Art or English at any university you are going to have a problem getting a job. More so if you don't get a 2:1 or above, and don't go to a well regarded university. However having a problem getting a job doesn't mean it's impossible, so stop feeling sorry for yourself.

olly300

!!!!!!? wrote: »

I don't know why everyone is associating being unemployed with being a chav.

To me, the word chav is used to describe a certain sort of behaviour and attitude. Not employment status or where you stand in the class system.

There are lots of chavs out there with decent jobs and plenty of money. Just no taste or sense of consideration for others.

Aren't Jade Goody, Jordan and Kerry Katona chavs?

margaretclare

Benefits_Blagger wrote: »

I could have went to an ex-poly and been even lazier and came out with a better grade. Maybe no-one wants a lazy employee, but neither do people want an employee who is hard working but fick as fook who, and is going to make mistakes and cost their employers large amouts of money.

It doesn't matter how easy they make the exam these days, there is a lot of people who are at university who don't deserve to be there. Maybe if we didn't let the amout of morons goto university that there is, there wouldn't be a need for us importing half of poland to serve our coffees.

Anyway role on the recession/depression and the media studies students who are manning our call centres will soon return to their natural place in society, i.e. serving me my coffee.

'You could have went'...

'role on...'

May one ask: is English your first language and if so, is this the kind of written English you exhibited in your degree exams and final thesis? If so, I'm not surprised that you got a third-class degree and that you are avowedly finding it difficult to get work. I would personally not employ you to serve ME my coffee!

Many Polish people speak and write better English than you do.

WTF?_2

olly300 wrote: »

Aren't Jade Goody, Jordan and Kerry Katona chavs?

Absolutely - the biggest there are. I'd put the Beckhams in the 'chav' category too (at the top of the chav hierarchy though) and they are incredibly wealthy.

'Chav' started out as a way to describe an emerging sort of antisocial, inconsiderate, loud, tasteless, vulgar, shameless way of behaviour that became increasingly common in the 90s. Nothing to do with personal wealth or employment status.

Unfortunately, the term has now been indiscriminately applied to anyone who is perceived as socially disadvantaged, poor, on benefits etc.