I get the feeling i rolled over too easily ??

NikkiP_2

go to citizens advice. tell them what you have received. take your bank statements with you. I would expect they would have some sort of calculator that could check the payments. If you dont owe them anything then dont pay them. It is up to them to prove you have been overpaid. And change your bank account so they dont have the details and cant serve a court order.

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NikkiP wrote: »

go to citizens advice. tell them what you have received. take your bank statements with you. I would expect they would have some sort of calculator that could check the payments. If you dont owe them anything then dont pay them. It is up to them to prove you have been overpaid. And change your bank account so they dont have the details and cant serve a court order.

Not wise advice.

It is up to the applicant to prove they have not been paid if TCO have evidence to state the amount has been paid to the applicant's account.
And she does owe them according to TCO, so she would need to pay them or successfully dispute the overpayment.
If there is proof this money was not paid and the applicant refuses to pay it back they wont just freeze bank accounts like council tax do/did - they will simply take her to court.

I am not saying who is at fault but you cannot ignore the problem and say I'm right & your not. And by the way you aint getting the money back.

SPANIEL36

surely if you checked with tax credits to find out what bank account info they have for you, and you got the bank statements for the dates that they say it was paid to you............then you should be able to prove that you have not been over paid by 13K??

System

During the early years of tax credits working tax credits were paid via employer (PVE). If you were working during the years that the overpayments arose then it might be that the payments were paid through your wages.
In that case it is not sufficient to just look at your bank statements you would also have to look at your P60's. If the figure on the P60 is not the same as on the TCO computer then you can dispute the overpayments again. There were endless problems with this method of payment because of delays in employers reacting to TCO instructions or not receiving those instructions at all. This is why this method was withdrawn.

Make an appointment at your local HMRC enquiry centre as the staff there can tell you how much TCO have as PVE payments on your computer record and then compare that with your P60's.

HTH

paisley_lass

like mitchaa says the OP is vague to comment on...i know back in 2004 when i was working i had my tax credits paid through my employer and when i was made redundant even though i informed HMRC this and that i was claiming income support they still continued to pay tax credits to my employer ( i never got a penny of it) resulting in a large overpayment that took over a year and the help of my MP to sort out.

180

Hi...Lisndai


Despite the negative comments of some of the locals, i am here to help you.

Go here for advice.. http://familytaxcredit.forumco.com/default.asp

on the forum you can register under any name you wish..

home page http://www.taxcreditoverpayment.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

it tells you how to dispute..£13,000 sounds a lot of money, but there have been people accused of having £19,000 + and have proved the HMRC wrong..and got the alleged debt written off..

Dont despair..

System

paisley_lass wrote: »

like mitchaa says the OP is vague to comment on...i know back in 2004 when i was working i had my tax credits paid through my employer and when i was made redundant even though i informed HMRC this and that i was claiming income support they still continued to pay tax credits to my employer ( i never got a penny of it) resulting in a large overpayment that took over a year and the help of my MP to sort out.

As far as i'm aware unless your employer was a small company TCO never actually paid money to the employer to give to you, rather they instructed the employer to pay WTC out of the tax and national insurance they collected from their employees. This was then supposed to be all reconciled when the employer submitted their end of year returns to HMRC. Unfortunately the system didn't work because in some cases the employer didn't get the instructions from TCO or delayed in actioning them and in others the information on the end of year return never cut over to the TCO system.

savvy

Hi lisndai
Don't be deterred by someone who doesn't know your circumstances and unhelpfully answering sarcastically

As 180 has already said, the taxcreditoverpayment site is brilliant for advice, they've helped me out no end with my case, and I've needed every bit of help due to the Tax Credit people lying to me :rolleyes:

And in return for the free advice, support and letter templates, you can help them by telling them your case study :cool:

Good luck

nottslass_2

In 2004 I was told by the TCO that I'd been over paid by about 3k (can't remember exactly)
Anyway after 2 years and a lot of hassle discovered that due to a "systems error" the TCO computer "thought" that I'd received more payments that I actually had ! You need to go through EVERY single bank statement and wage slip since the beginning of your claim and calculate all monies you actually received and compare this figure with the TCO figures. Hopefully this will give you the absolute proof that you need.
Good luck