tv licence for pc tv

Swan_2

blinky wrote:

The fact that the TV is capable of receiving TV signals means that you need a licence.

£120 / 52 = £2.31 per week (rounded to nearest penny). Equivalent to roughly 1-1.5 pints per week.

Vivienne1000 should not need a licence in the circumstances described

take a look here (posted in this thread earlier today) http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/n6w/i...ences.htm#nobbc

Bossyboots

Swan wrote:

Vivienne1000 should not need a licence in the circumstances described

take a look here (posted in this thread earlier today) http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/n6w/i...ences.htm#nobbc

I've gone through that link and cannot find anything which suggests a licence is not necessary. I agree with blinky on this one.

A licence would not be required if the TV is battery operated only but I am guessing that is not the case as it would cost a fortune to play the PS2 if it was.

Swan_2

from the CAB site linked in my previous posts ...

"If you do not use your television set or video recorder to watch or record authorised broadcast programmes (that is, BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, cable television or satellite television) you will not need a licence. This means that you would not need a licence if, for example, you only:-

* use the television set as a computer monitor
* use the television set to play electronic games
* watch pre-recorded videos, whether or not these have been bought, or recorded by someone else on a licensed video recorder.

However, the television set and/or video recorder must be incapable of receiving all authorised broadcast programmes. This could be done, for example, by making sure that neither the television set nor the video recorder are tuned into any channels and ensuring that they are not connected to an aerial"

EDIT ... that link I posted earlier doesn't seem to be working any more, I hope this one will http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/n6w/index/your_world/communications/television_licences.htm#nobbc

blinky

I think the onus is still on you to prove it is not used for receiving television signals. Otherwise everyone would just say I use my TV for playing my console games and watching prerecorded video when caught. Similarly simply detuning wouldn't be enough.

The rules used to have no exemptions but looking at the TV Licensing website

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/gethelp/faqs.jsp#link1

What if I only use a TV to watch videos/DVDs/as a monitor for my games console? Do I still need a licence?

You need to notify us in writing that this is the case and one our Enforcement Officers may need to visit you to confirm that you do not need a licence.

Please write to us including your name, address and the reason you believe that you don't need a licence at:

TV Licensing
Bristol
BS98 1TL


I'd expect them to visit at least once if not everytime they are doing a detector van sweep of the area.

Swan_2

I think we're losing sight of the real issue here, it's not about who the onus is on. the fact of the matter is, if your telly's de-tuned & not connected to an aerial, you don't need a licence

ben500

No I think you are missing the point somewhat neither bargainboy nor vivienne have indicated that they have had their equipment detuned and therefore given the information supplied the answer to their question is YES you do need a licence. BUT if you want to go to the expense of having the sets detuned then you can avoid a licence and as this service will cost you £60 or upwards, then it is questionable as to whether or not you will make a saving as presumably you may wish to view broadcasts on the equipment at a later date, you are then faced with the question as to whether it is prudent to have the equipment re-modified at further expense or throw it away or maybe sell on to another student, and would you recoup your losses, a bit of a false economy methinks unless of course you can pick some second hand equipment up from another student maybe.

Swan_2

I wasn't referring to bargainboy's situation, he intends to watch broadcasts & of course does need a licence

Vivienne on the other hand wants to use the telly solely as a 'monitor' & I thought my own experience, & the information on the CAB site might be of interest and/or use

I didn't watch telly for 2 years & during that time, I de-tuned the channels myself, had the aerial unplugged & the cable rolled up & taped to the skirting board
I informed TVLA what I used my telly for & what I'd done to it to make sure I couldn't receive broadcasts
although they wrote several times & said they might have to send an inspector round to check, no-one ever came

a search throws up discussions on this subject on many other forums. this does seem to be a very contentious issue!

Mattjimf

ben500 wrote:

No I think you are missing the point somewhat neither bargainboy nor vivienne have indicated that they have had their equipment detuned and therefore given the information supplied the answer to their question is YES you do need a licence. BUT if you want to go to the expense of having the sets detuned then you can avoid a licence and as this service will cost you £60 or upwards, then it is questionable as to whether or not you will make a saving as presumably you may wish to view broadcasts on the equipment at a later date, you are then faced with the question as to whether it is prudent to have the equipment re-modified at further expense or throw it away or maybe sell on to another student, and would you recoup your losses, a bit of a false economy methinks unless of course you can pick some second hand equipment up from another student maybe.

As long as you have neither an indoor ariel (which most students will need) or a cable connecting to an ariel socket, you don't need to spend any money detuning a tv, as without these pieces of equipment you can not recieve a signal and therefore can not watch tv.
If you really wanted to make sure, you could just get a pair of pliers and bend/break the ariel socket in the back of the tv so that even if you did have an ariel you wouldn't be able to connect it.

ben500

Mattjimf wrote:

As long as you have neither an indoor ariel (which most students will need) or a cable connecting to an ariel socket, you don't need to spend any money detuning a tv, as without these pieces of equipment you can not recieve a signal and therefore can not watch tv.
If you really wanted to make sure, you could just get a pair of pliers and bend/break the ariel socket in the back of the tv so that even if you did have an ariel you wouldn't be able to connect it.

The first suggestion would not exclude you from requirement I'm not sure about the second though it may well do.

Just because you do not have an aerial does not render the equipment incapable of receiving a signal, difficult yes but not incapable and therefore would not be a defence.

Mr_Skint_2

Or just dont get a TV and save on the Pliers, Licence, Remote Batteries, Sky, Freeview, Satelite, New Aerial, Stress, and do some outdoor activities at no cost, Like Walking that, Reduces Stress, Recharges Your Batteries, No Licence Required.

P.S Everybody moans how TV shows are crap so why do we insist watching the Box.