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  • micklemuckle
    micklemuckle Posts: 18 Forumite
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    edited 6 May 2021 at 12:37PM
    Thanks Primrose and eskbanker, I have changed the option to paying any winnings to my bank account. I will give it a day or 2 and see what happens. I usually get an email to notify me of any winnings but have not had one yet. Cheers
  • Senseicads
    Senseicads Posts: 207 Forumite
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    £75 won this month on £19k invested. 
  • metrobus
    metrobus Posts: 1,784 Forumite
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    £50000 invested nothing the last 3 months.
    What's the odds on that?
    No chance at all this is random.
    Wherever you have a human input to something with a financial gain you will get the probability of fraud.
  • Swipe
    Swipe Posts: 5,654 Forumite
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    metrobus said:
    £50000 invested nothing the last 3 months.
    What's the odds on that?
    No chance at all this is random.
    Wherever you have a human input to something with a financial gain you will get the probability of fraud.
    You must be one of the unluckiest people on here

  • eskbanker
    eskbanker Posts: 37,455 Forumite
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    metrobus said:
    £50000 invested nothing the last 3 months.
    What's the odds on that?
    No chance at all this is random.
    Wherever you have a human input to something with a financial gain you will get the probability of fraud.
    The odds are 1.29% according to the MSE calculator, so unlucky but not freakishly so....
  • lr1277
    lr1277 Posts: 2,163 Forumite
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    Nothing on a £32k holding.
  • josh33
    josh33 Posts: 34 Forumite
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    metrobus said:
    £50000 invested nothing the last 3 months.
    What's the odds on that?
    No chance at all this is random.
    Wherever you have a human input to something with a financial gain you will get the probability of fraud.
    I know, it's so frustrating. I had zero wins on £50k for 12 consecutive months, then a £25 win, then 6 months of zero wins again. It felt like my bonds weren't even being entered into the draw. According to the MSE calculator (which I take with a heavy pinch of salt despite its underlying mathematics), my luck was virtually impossible, and I should have expected £250 with virtual certainty, with a 93% chance, i.e. very high chance of getting more than £500. After 18 months I finally won again and got £5,000, with several £25's thrown in too. There is a note on the calculator saying:

    "We use an estimate of the 'median average'. This means if everyone with £1,000 in bonds stood in ascending order of amount won, the person in the middle of the line has 'average luck'."

    So that implies that many, many people will have below average luck and win far less than the calculator predicts.

  • mersey
    mersey Posts: 1,298 Forumite
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    £25 this month.
  • eskbanker
    eskbanker Posts: 37,455 Forumite
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    josh33 said:
    There is a note on the calculator saying:

    "We use an estimate of the 'median average'. This means if everyone with £1,000 in bonds stood in ascending order of amount won, the person in the middle of the line has 'average luck'."

    So that implies that many, many people will have below average luck and win far less than the calculator predicts.
    Of course, that's how averages work!  There will also be many, many people with above average luck....
  • thegentleway
    thegentleway Posts: 1,094 Forumite
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    edited 6 May 2021 at 4:42PM
    eskbanker said:
    josh33 said:
    There is a note on the calculator saying:

    "We use an estimate of the 'median average'. This means if everyone with £1,000 in bonds stood in ascending order of amount won, the person in the middle of the line has 'average luck'."

    So that implies that many, many people will have below average luck and win far less than the calculator predicts.
    Of course, that's how averages work!  There will also be many, many people with above average luck....
    Indeed. However, according to the calculator, they will normally be more people with below average luck than above. E.g. on max holding for a year:
    45.7% will get < £450
    16.5% will get the median = £450
    37.8% will get > £450

    EDIT: more importantly 54.3% will get £450 or more so the majority will get the median or more, which I think is the more useful way to look at it.
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