Bank of Mum and Dad - BBC2 8pm Tuesdays

pandas66

time to look for new friends by the sounds of it

Mister.G_3

I'm not graduate/student bashing. Without those the country would go into freefall (no-one to fill the appropriate highly skilled jobs left behind by the older generations currently carrying them out) My brother's currently doing a masters in electrical engineering and i respect him for the amount of work he puts into fitting his coursework in around a full time job. By that token he respects the drive i have in trying to establish my business around a full time job as in his own words 'he'd be worried about it failing'

I'm pretty sure this thread's veered far enough off track anyway without it generating into a free for all. JMHO of course.

nearlyrich

mark_jones13 wrote:

If you want a good job working for someone else then you need a degree.

I have a very good job working for someone else and I haven't got a degree.

You cannot say that someone with 5 GCSEs is more likely to succeed than a person with a 2.1 in Chemistry.

I have 10 GCEs ( OLD SYSTEM) and 4 A levels, I personally know people with excellent degrees who have very low paying jobs.

The person with the degree has already shown the drive and ambition while the school drop out is just a lay about doing whatever job they can get.

I am not a school drop out, it just wasn't something I felt the need to do and I could have had full grant and no loans. I got a job because I had had enought of studying and I wanted to earn some money.


That person will delude themselves that they are happy and successful but they'll feel a lot less successful when they see that Univesity graduate driving past in a brand new car.

OK so I have a great job, lovely house that is paid for and worth about 5 times what we paid for it, 2 great kids, what have I got to be happy about?

Also, I didn't realise you had to produce a certificate to show you have a degree when you order a new car, no-one ever asked for mine, better cancel my new company car as I'm obviously not qualified to drive it:rolleyes:

You always hear the excuses about the debt and the call centre jobs at the end.

Oh no, I used to work in a call centre and I have no regrets it was a lot more than £25K I can tell you.


I'm sure all you non graduates are very happy with your average £25,000 a year wages.

I would be most unhappy to take such a drastic cut!



Besides while you are earning lower wages you are paying a lot less tax compared to graduates so do take a minute to thank us graduates for subsidising your healthcare and police won't you.

Thanks Mark I really appreciate you subsidising my healthcare:j although there is a line on my payslip where the company think they are paying for it and my council tax helps to fund the local constabulary.

Sweeping statements Mark, not exactly true in any number of cases, who's been brainwashed here?:)

daveboy

Crikey, the woman from the first programme really has caused a stir.

Let's keep this on the programme folks, because from what I can see the uni debate will go on forever. :rolleyes:

Willsnarf1983

i'm impressed daveboy...some actual sense from u for once

Will

mark_jones13

Daveboy this is a nice place to end this but I would like to remind you that you were in trouble with money once. So don't go around posting on here telling everone what a saint you are with money and how you've never put a foot wrong.

You even said to someone in a different post something along the lines of "I've never owed money so I wouldn't know what that's like"

You're not so sharp with your words now are you. But yes, let's go back to the topic of the TV programme.

mountainofdebt

But surely the point that is being made about going to Uni (and I really don't want to stir the hornets nest again) is that alot of people do go to Uni, manage to rack up alot of debt and then get jobs which at the end of the day they could have done without going to Uni at all.

Are these people going to Uni because its the 'done thing at 18, with the view that life is going to be a bed of roses and then its not but they still have the debt to show for it?

pitbull

mark_jones13 wrote:

If you want a good job working for someone else then you need a degree. If you look at the appointments section in the Times you'll see all of the £100k jobs in the City all ask for degrees.

It shows that you have transferable skills.

I think you'll find they ask for 5 - 10 years experience as well for £100k, having said that, the tone of your post suggests that you are a typical graduate who has never had to work at shop floor level in your life and have no concept of the realities of life.

If it weren't for the little people, you lot in the ivory towers wouldn't be in a job! And before you decide to attack me, I am one of the little people who starts studying for an Electrical degree this September, part time (admitedly paid for by the company) but I am 43 and consider myself lucky to be offered the opportunity to better myself.

One difference, I will never forget my roots.

Ember999

pitbull wrote:

I think you'll find they ask for 5 - 10 years experience as well for £100k, having said that, the tone of your post suggests that you are a typical graduate who has never had to work at shop floor level in your life and have no concept of the realities of life.

If it weren't for the little people, you lot in the ivory towers wouldn't be in a job! And before you decide to attack me, I am one of the little people who starts studying for an Electrical degree this September, part time (admitedly paid for by the company) but I am 43 and consider myself lucky to be offered the opportunity to better myself.

One difference, I will never forget my roots.

Good Luck Pitbull, WELL DONE! :T :T :T

Ember x

ceegee

I haven't got a television magazine or paper (too tight ). Is it on tonight, does anyone happen to know?