offer or not to offer?

blondie21

There's too many losers posting !!!!e replys on this thread......do they actually have any property portfolio's ? or what ? how exactly are they qualified to advise others?????

Ian_W

nelly wrote: how can you have personall experience of a house you dont own yet?

Very astute - but in fairness I think Mr Walrus was refering in a more general sense to advice guided by experience being more valuable. If I thought I'd a hole in my head I'd go and see a doctor - but I've no doubt the cabbie taking me there would have an opinion!

blondie21 wrote: There's too many losers posting !!!!e replys on this thread......do they actually have any property portfolio's ? or what ? how exactly are they qualified to advise others?????

Chill Blondie - opinions are like ar***oles -everbody's got one! This is, after all, t'internet - a virtual world with vitual advice from vitually qualified posters, so don't take it tooo seriously. After all nelly might have been sent to bed by his mum by now, meanmachine may own half of Mayfair, and you're blonde and 21 - YEAH RIGHT!!
There's an old saying, "Empty vessels make most noise" which is just as true the the virtual world as the real one!!

Meanmachine wrote:Believe me, I wouldn't dare to give my opinion if I wasn't actually a potential buyer who, in the last 12 months, has viewed around a dozen properties. Is that good enough for you?

Just wish you'd make your mind up cos you're making me dizzy. On some threads you're a FTB, on this a potential buyer and on others a 100% certain no time buyer, no time soon yet, not until prices drop by 30000% or so. Or perhaps I should just listen to the old saying above!!

bridiej

Temrael wrote:

Good luck with the viewing. Everyone says late July/August is dead for property sales but it's not necessarily true. We put our house on the market on 25th of July and within 30 mins had a viewing which the next day resulted in our first offer (which fell through as she lied about having sold her house! :mad: ). But we quickly got about 5 more viewings and within seven days were in a position of picking which of 3 offers we wanted to accept :eek: (we went with the FTB).

We had the same experience, had three offers within 5 days of house being on the market - fingers crossed our sale is currently going through now.

halloweenqueen_2

Maybe next time I ask advice I won't put love and property in the same sentance! We have already seen one house go that we couldn't sell in time for so we are very realistic that it may happen again, the fall in love bit meant that this property would suit all the family with no compromises, but if it goes it goes- I wouldn't say we would be heartbroken but disappointed.

Thanks for everyones advice on this thread, we recently changed estate agents because basically the original ones were crap and I got them to null and void their contract as they had not kept their part of the bargain, the current ones have done more in ten days than the original ones did in ten weeks.

The viewing went very well, but as the people are not from this area they are veiwing several and i'm realistic enough to realise its a buyers market for my type of property in this area.

I'm quite into minimalism anyway so my house is clutter free but without looking barren, most people say its relaxing, so hopefully they will be relaxed into an offer.

Incidently some people have an abrupt way of saying things and thats what I took meanmachines way to be, i'm not upset about his viewpoint, its a valid point of view just looks harsh in writing I guess, but thanks also to the people who stuck up for me!!! So I hope to get loads more advice from you guys!!:A

mrak

meanmachine, I always enjoy your posts! You and I are in a similar situation as I understand it.. Keen to make that first purchase, but frustrated by the laughably inflated prices, but that said, I think you're perhaps deliberately missing hallowe'en queen's point.. She might say that she's in love with the house, but it's simply a more concise way of saying that she can see herself being happy living there.. Houses with real character provoke the potential buyer into daydreaming about family and friends.. hence such a strong feeling.

blondie21.. Don't worry about the size of our portfolio's [sic].. Most of us are millionaires already, we're just waiting for our bank balances to catch up with this notion!

Murray

I think that the difference here which is causing the conflict is that some people want to buy a house which'll be a sound investment and others want a home where they can raise their families.
Obviously the 2nd is going to evoke more emotion than the 1st.

Anyway, thats enough of my off thread ramblings!!

lush_walrus

trevbob wrote:

I can't see why people are getting upset here. If you put any personal emotion into a decision you're no longer being totally objective. Without doubt parasites (sorry EAs) turn this to their advantage but both buyers and sellers can be manipulated by e.g. the phantom interested party. In my experience there's a very fine line between being serious enough to ensure your offer is accepted and overcommitted where the EA takes the !!!!!!.

Sorry but this is a very unfounded view, it is not the EAs who use over egger buyers to their advantage, but the vendors. EA's job is to advise the vendor as to whether an offer is a serious one ie: from someone who can actually afford to buy a property/has a tied up chain/has a mortgage in place etc. They do not gain anything if someone loves the property/will be heart broken if it doesn't come off etc or whether the buyer has a cold calculated reason for buying the property, a buyer is a buyer and thats what counts to an agent.

The vendor on the other hand will feel that if the person is in love with a property they will pay whatever it takes to get the property and therefore will pay the asking price or very close to. That is exactly why most EAs advise buyers NOT TO show out much in the house.

Its very entertaining, and predictable to accuse EAs of everything under the sun, but Im afraid this is not helpful if the facts are wrong. I hope this has clarified how EAs work, rather than speculation, for the poster of this thread, it may well aid you in where to show your emotion.

lush_walrus

Ian_W wrote:

Very astute - but in fairness I think Mr Walrus was refering in a more general sense to advice guided by experience being more valuable. If I thought I'd a hole in my head I'd go and see a doctor - but I've no doubt the cabbie taking me there would have an opinion!

Miss Walrus incidently!!! And as you have picked up I was refering to actual experience being more valuable than speculation/reporting on general 'paper talk' formulated statistics etc.

I am very experienced in buying/selling (as are many of the other useful posters) & owning EAs so speculation to me is a very misguided form of advice. I can speculate till the cows come home about any topic, but Im dammed sure that those who have genuine experience will always know far, far more than my speculation!

Ian_W

lush walrus wrote: Miss Walrus incidently!!!

Whoops!!! Just goes to show that opinion without knowledge & experience is oft times like a dodgy fiver ... looks good when you get it, feels good in your pocket, but worthless when you need to cash it in!! :mad:
Intreeeeging moniker, bit of steriotyping on my part & I do exactly what I said others shouldn't and make assumptions about other posters - Doooh :rolleyes:
Have a good weekend MISS Walrus.

meanmachine_2

Well, let's all pat ourselves on the back for giving the OP a range of opinions from which he/she can choose.

That is the point of a forum, after all.

And yes, the direct way in which I write is more out of laziness than rudeness. 99.9% of the time I'm perfectly cheery when writing or more likely have my tongue in my cheek.

But irony is lost on this new fangled interweb medium.

As regards my own status, I use "FTBer" as short hand for someone who is, in theory, interested in buying.

If I wasn't someone who had viewed property, seen what I could - or in most cases couldn't get for my money - then I wouldn't be a FTBer, I'd just be a nutter obsessed by property for no reason.

At least most people on this site know where I'm coming from. It's those who appear to give impartial advice, but give nothing of the kind that forum users should beware of, in my opinion.

I'm not a salesperson, nor an EA. I'm just an ordinary bloke who has been priced out of a market gripped, until recently, by madness. You can take my advice/opinions or reject them. But you can be sure I've no axe other to grind. That's why I post on the mortgage section pointing people in the direction of cheap deals...because I've been looking in that area myself.

No other reason.