TV Licence article Discussion

the_worm_that_turned

TV Licencing (a trademark of BBC) are sneaky !!!!!!s.

After I withdrew their implied right of access to my land via a notice I constructed, they sent round one of their employees thereby committing a trespass against me.

After writing to the BBC about this they did not admit it and asked for more details! Fortunately their department that pretends to NOT be part of the BBC (TV Licensing) admitted they had been to my dwelling. Doh!

Strangely enough when they break the law and admit it no compensation is forthcoming but the threats from them keep coming.

Their latest letter via TV Licensing (which as explained before is the BBC) doesn't even include the legally required information as stipulated by the Companies House Act i.e. registered company name, address and number.

They are unreal!

Cornucopia

the_worm_that_turned wrote: »

...doesn't even include the legally required information as stipulated by the Companies House Act i.e. registered company name, address and number.

Not required because they are incorporated under Royal Charter.

Paul_Varjak

blackfive wrote: »

Excellently put.
It proved they haven't any devices when I got accused their device had detected me using a television and it was still sealed in the delivery box!
Remember the publicity given to the detector vans in the past with a big contraption on the roof and all they contained was a printout of addresses without a licence. Today all they have is a laptop with the database installed.

I thought they could detect radiation from vacuum tube TVs, but I wonder if it is possible to detect radiation from LED/LCD/Plasma TVs?

the_worm_that_turned

Cornucopia wrote: »

Not required because they are incorporated under Royal Charter.

Are you certain of that fact? They can send out letters without describing who they are, i.e. concealing the fact that TV Licencing isn't actually a legal entity and is indeed only a trademark of BBC and not providing a real address only a PO Box?

I am not so sure.

the_worm_that_turned

Paul_Varjak wrote: »

I thought they could detect radiation from vacuum tube TVs, but I wonder if it is possible to detect radiation from LED/LCD/Plasma TVs?

It is easy to detect, but you need to be about 30 cm away!

blackfive

neil9313 wrote: »

First post,

A BBC pr person?

Paul_Varjak wrote: »

I thought they could detect radiation from vacuum tube TVs, but I wonder if it is possible to detect radiation from LED/LCD/Plasma TVs?

I think that could be correct although it wasn't from their vans. It must of confused them back in the days when everyone's computers had CRT screens!

blackfive

the_worm_that_turned wrote: »

Are you certain of that fact? They can send out letters without describing who they are, i.e. concealing the fact that TV Licencing isn't actually a legal entity and is indeed only a trademark of BBC and not providing a real address only a PO Box?

I am not so sure.

The BBC may be incorporated by Royal Charter but the company working on their behalf, Capita, are certainly a Public Limited Company so surely they must have to give the details if that's who you're dealing with?

mymedi

Cornucopia wrote: »

It doesn't work like that. The logic around the search warrant application is not part of the eventual trial. That's because this being a summary offence, the search warrant is not relevant to the guilt or innocence of the defendant.

Thanks for the excursion into the legal maze!
Every time I look deeper into it, I find an even bigger mess!
But here, if you say that not paying for the TV licence is a summary offence (which it is), I still don't see how it can be decided without even notifying me as the technical defendant! They are deciding on whether or not something is true without hearing the other side? For example, in the US, if the warrant was obtained by perjury, the evidence is tossed! I'm sure nobody in the UK legal system would even dream of that, thus leaving the motives and means of obtaining a warrant subject to high scepticism... :mad:

mrobsessed

I'm waiting for someone who actually works/worked for TV Licensing to confirm first hand that TV Detectors aren't used/don't exist.

Anyone?

There seems to be a LOT of conflicting information out there especially from people claiming detectors are a real technology, I wouldn't be surprised it TV Licensing has a dept that posts propaganda about TVs being easily detectable with space-age equipment.

IMHO, its just bluff and bluster.

Cornucopia

the_worm_that_turned wrote: »

Are you certain of that fact? They can send out letters without describing who they are, i.e. concealing the fact that TV Licencing isn't actually a legal entity and is indeed only a trademark of BBC and not providing a real address only a PO Box?

I am not so sure.

I asked Companies House, and that is what they told me.

There also does not seem to be a general principle in law that people/organisations will always be completely honest in the way they present themselves to the public. (That's particularly true where the dishonesty has some purpose other than financial gain).